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Subject: Star Kist Tuna

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's home district includes San Francisco.
Star-Kist Tuna's headquarters are in San Francisco, Pelosi's home district.

Star-Kist is owned by Del Monte Foods and is a major contributor to Pelosi.

Star-Kist is the major employer in American Samoa employing 75% of the
Samoan work force.

Paul Pelosi, Nancy's husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock.

In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to $7.25,
Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so Del Monte would not
have to pay the higher wage. This would make Del Monte products less
expensive than their competition's.

Last week when the huge bailout bill was passed, Pelosi added an earmark to the final bill adding $33 million dollars for an economic development credit in American Samoa '.

Pelosi has called the Bush Administration "CORRUPT"?
How do you spell "HYPOCRISY" ? ?

EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD GET THIS E-MAIL. IT IS ENOUGH TO MAKE A HOLY
PERSON ANGRY ENOUGH TO GO THROW THEM ALL OUT ON THEIR BEHINDS.
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Greg you are so fast.I sent that back to the one that sent this to me.
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Rod Martin wrote:Greg you are so fast.I sent that back to the one that sent this to me.
I did get a kick our of this. ;)

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This is the problem as I see it with the republican party. Now I am not blaming you Rod but before you post something like this you need to do some research, like I think Greg said in another post Snopes can be your friend.

How many times on this site and others have you seen posting similar to this that are out right lies and untruths? I for one have seen it too many times for it to be a coincidence. This is a republican tactic, make up a bunch of crap, throw it out there and see what sticks. They tried the same thing with Obama about being a muslim, a terrorist and a community organizer.

I could have a lot more respect for republican party and it's members if they would not pull these kind of stunts. When we see it so many times how are we suppose to believe anything you guys say? Like the kid who cried wolf, after a while we won't believe anything.
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LOL
StockOption wrote:This is the problem as I see it with the democratic party. Now I am not blaming you Fish but before you post something like this you need to do some research, like I think Greg said in another post Snopes can be your friend.

How many times on this site and others have you seen posting similar to this that are out right lies and untruths? I for one have seen it too many times for it to be a coincidence. This is a democratic tactic, make up a bunch of crap, throw it out there and see what sticks. They tried the same thing with Palin about her son Trig, her record of ACTUAL accomplishments and her ability to govern as a mother.

I could have a lot more respect for democratic party and it's members if they would not pull these kind of stunts. When we see it so many times how are we suppose to believe anything you guys say? Like the kid who cried wolf, after a while we won't believe anything.
You really can't be that much of a fool can you? If you think for a second the democratic party doesn't do PRECISELY the same things..well.....again that is pathetic and as they say if the shoe fits.....
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People like you is the same problem I have with the Rush followers, Frankin followers (all 8 of them), etc.

to few people are capable of having their own opinion, and with our educational system being in the state it's in, most don't have the tools to come to an educated conclusion anyway.

Something happens, is announced, etc., and folks have to wait for the following day to see what Rush says to know what their opinion is - sad, but true (Metalica).

Republican Bad. Democrat Good. NOT
Democrat Bad. Republican Good. NOT

I'd be the first to admit that my party has been highjacked by a bunch of crooks and President Bush wasted an opportunity by shifting US foreign policy away from 'keeping regional stability' and into colonialism in Iraq.

The Dems are no different. President Obahma - as do Dems - believe that the way to get out of economic downturns is to apply keynsian economic policy. It don't work - and creates bigger government. I disagree with his plan for that simple reason.

I'm discusted with my party because they are encapable of delivering that message. Instead, some are simple falling in line, looking for pork, to have their vote bought.

Rome had to fall - we will not be number one forever. Fortunately in my lifetime - and that of my kids, our military can still crush all opposiiton so things won't change in my lifetime.

BTW - Not only is Nancy Pelosi as dirty as they come, she's an idiot.
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Fish I would check it out but, Greg is faster & better at vetting stuff.

If he had done the research on Obamas picks there would have been less problems with the Tax cheats. and a smoother vote on all of them :D


Besides part of it is true and it does show both sides in a bad light.
To much back door stuff on both sides. So it doesnt hurt me to put it out there.
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I admit Greg is on the ball, and pretty darn quick.

My point is this, I don't think I have ever and I mean ever seen a dem post something on this site or others I visit that was one of those types of emails that float around the country like the one Rod posted. I have seen countless ones that republicans post though and I have seen them shot down by SNOPES countless times.

I have also seen the republicans post these "cute" little letters from employers laying off there workers because of the dems and the "cute" little note to the servers saying there tip went to the homeless guy out front which were both never true in the first place. What I have not seen very much though is the republicans living up to what they brought and that is GW Bush and the worst recession since the 1930s.

Now, I will say that both sides have to take responcibility for what is going on but for anyone to think it does not have more to do with republicans then dems is just foolish. Look back over the last 16 yrs, we have split those yrs in the White House but the republicans have a huge advantage in presiding over the house and senate, and if we are to believe that the house and senate are the ones who really cause all the problems then the blame goes squarely on the republicans.

We don't need people to post editorials, or other peoples rantings we just need facts. Those facts are we are coming off of 8 yrs of a republican president in which the first 6 of those yrs he had a republican house and senate. The fact is we are in trouble with the economy, job losses, unemployement and too many other problems to list. Now the republicans that are left can keep playing politics with the economy or they can get on board and try to help fix it, but when not one single republican voted for the stimulus package that tells me they are playing politics and now is not the time.
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Hello, pay attention, WAKE-UP !!!!!

It is NOT a "stimulus" bill, BHO himself is now calling it a "spending" bill.

If you take the time to review this piece of crap, no reasonable individual could arrive at the rational conclusion that this is a stimulus bill. By a freaking longshot.

Anyone thinking this is a stimulus bill which will help our economy recover is wrong, it's a spending bill.

Those who are NOT supporting it are true patriots.
StockOption wrote:Change is here...ohh yeah.....and hope too. BIGTIME.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html

Add the roughly $20 billion for business tax cuts, and by our estimate only $90 billion out of $825 billion, or about 12 cents of every $1, is for something that can plausibly be considered a growth stimulus.

This is supposed to be a new era of bipartisanship, but this bill was written based on the wish list of every living -- or dead -- Democratic interest group. As Speaker Nancy Pelosi put it, "We won the election. We wrote the bill." So they did. Republicans should let them take all of the credit.


This is $700 billion of our money being handed to Obama's cronies.

This makes Bush and Cheney's alleged attempts to enrich their buddies look pretty lame in comparison. Obama is going to outdo them by a factor of five, and with the mere stroke of a pen.
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I know ,you dont get out much. But I have seen it and just as many are wrong. So we can drop that part.

Now looks like there are just as many crooks in the Dems as there are in the Rs

And more BS coming out each day. I am having a blast watching the Dems screw up. How about you.

Only thing I hate is watching them spend all your kids money. I know Bush did it too. So use that as an excuse, sooner or later one side or the other is going to have to do what is right for America, but guess it wont be the Dems this time around. :lol:


Again Dems call comperise doing what they want. forget meeting in the middle. Way to go Obama, acting like a child that's not getting his way.
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This is a rare day. But I have to agree with Kurt. This is a POS legislation. I have read a large portion of it and it stinks. I also see where Feinstein is balking at voting for it. Maybe cooler heads will prevail and they can actually come up with something that does stimulate the economy. Where does giving $150 million to the national endowment of the arts promote jobs?
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Agreed, there is definitely some things in there that don't belong but what some of you may see as pork will actually create jobs. They might get a new library in Little Rock for instance, now some of you republicans might call that pork but it will create constructing jobs and support jobs.

I don't know how a economic stimilus bill can not be called a spending bill, they are one in the same. What would you do, have us cut spending?

I wish I knew where all you fiscal responcible republicans were in the last 8 yrs and then maybe I could understand where your coming from. The only time I heard anything from your group was when the election was creeping up and then a few of you, not many mind you said that Bush had spent too much.

The bill is not perfect, no bill is, but this will go further to create jobs then the 350billlion Bush spent in his last try. The only thing that bill helped was to create a few more millionaires
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350 billion, that was the one just before he left office and the Dem congress gave to him.

If he signs , he spends to much, if he doesnt , he hurting America.

At least he didnt ask for the rest till Obama called him and asked for it.


Now I do not know if its true but Bush said on tv he wasnt going to ask for the 2nd part unless Obama asked for it . What was it 20 min later the news was reporting he got the call.
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If he wants to spend money how about all the roads in this country that need to be bigger and better. That would create jobs and do something that really needs to be done. sink it all into every state and do all the roads at least we would have smooth roads to ride on to the poor house
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are you S-ing me? Certainly you're not that naive.....

Particularly after all the crap that's been slung at the Palin family over the internet and other venues.

And while you may choose to call it a 'cute' letter - fact is most small to mid-sized businesses owners worked their a$$es off to EARN what they have. Raise taxes on them and they'll cut staff (jobs).
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Oh, the Palin family, you talk about in breeding.........that's a joke, I hope you guys are still not resting your hopes on that loser.

She is the perfect example of why the right wing conservative republican out dated methods don't work. Let's preach abstinence and nothing else, oh except god and the ten commandments and that is what you get.........Palins teenage daughter with 1 and possibly 2 babies. I don't believe Palins youngest child has been proven to be Sarah Palins, there is still some question that the child was actually from her daughter. But anyway that is for another thread on another day.
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well Fish ,i can joke around a little , and still make a point. But your last post was enought for me.

Palin has done nothing wrong. Her daughter has done nothing that would makewhat you and the other DEMS are trying to do any where near right.

I will remind you of your other posts, didnt you say JUST FACTS, THAT DEMS DONT SPOUT THIS CRAP! THAT ONLY RS DO!

Yea I guess your as worthless as the rest!


My point is this, I don't think I have ever and I mean ever seen a dem post something on this site or others I visit that was one of those types of emails that float around the country like the one Rod posted. I have seen countless ones that republicans post though and I have seen them shot down by SNOPES countless times. THESE WERE YOUR WORDS


Could'nt make it out of the post without doing just what YOU said DEMS never do!

So because you dont cut & paste your lies are alright.

YOU BET!
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Well I thought you were a least better than bass attack & bassturd, but the truth seems to come out.
I assume after your other post you have facts


If you have any proof about anything you have said about Palins daughter lets put it out here.
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FishaHallic wrote:I don't believe Palins youngest child has been proven to be Sarah Palins, there is still some question that the child was actually from her daughter.
This has to be the most retarded statement I've read on here.

Sad and pathetic if you truly, TRULY believe this.

Let me guess you still believe in Santa Claus too right?

Seems to me like you've read too many of those ohhhh so truthful democratic e-mails and internet postings.

LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Yes, I heard she nearly gave it up because she didn't think it was hers. :D
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Greg, you're smarter than that and shes not that dumb.


Thats 1
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You see how it works – they want to talk but they can do the walk – when you score points in the discussion and they can’t think of something knowledgeable to say - they always revert to lies to make you angry!

I will take "Republican tactic"........... over “Democratic Liesâ€
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Think I'll call it a night Fish, has me back on my meds.

How a man can attack a young woman he has never met,with crap like that ,

No, let me redo that a man would not attack a female like

Think I'll just call it a night
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Rod Martin wrote:Greg, you're smarter than that and shes not that dumb.


Thats 1
Its a joke! Who cares as long as its not mine.
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FishaHallic wrote:This is the problem as I see it with the republican party. Now I am not blaming you Rod but before you post something like this you need to do some research, like I think Greg said in another post Snopes can be your friend.

How many times on this site and others have you seen posting similar to this that are out right lies and untruths? I for one have seen it too many times for it to be a coincidence. This is a republican tactic, make up a bunch of crap, throw it out there and see what sticks.
They tried the same thing with Obama about being a muslim, a terrorist and a community organizer.

I could have a lot more respect for republican party and it's members if they would not pull these kind of stunts. When we see it so many times how are we suppose to believe anything you guys say? Like the kid who cried wolf, after a while we won't believe anything.
Name a republican who said President Obama was a terrorist. And I don't mean a registered republican or your average Joe "the plumber" republican. I mean an elected or an official representative. If you can't, you are just making up a bunch of crap, throwing it out there and seeing what sticks.
My point is this, I don't think I have ever and I mean ever seen a dem post something on this site or others I visit that was one of those types of emails that float around the country like the one Rod posted
Sure you have Fishahallic.
http://www.westernbass.com/forum/viewto ... =44922&f=8
There were others but I'd rather not bring them up.
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Wait a minute, if Sarah Palin wants to come out as she did as gods gift to all that is right and then preach to us how we should run our life, and pass laws based on her so called strict religious believes then she should be able to pass her own test. I am merely pointing out the flaws in her and your thinking if you think that abstinence is the only thing to teach kids. Sarah Palin will try to pass laws just like that but yet her teenage daughter is having babies and if that is not hypocritical then I don't know what is.

I did not call her daughter a slut or whore or anything for that matter but I did question her mothers breeding and I did question the fact that Sarah Palins youngest child may actually have been the first child of her daughter.

I mean you guys are the one saying Obama is a socialist (with no proof), you guys are the ones questioning his right to run for president (with no proof) you guys are the ones that were saying Obama was a manchurian candidate (with no proof) you are guys are the same ones saying he did not stand for the pledge of allegiance and that he was sworn in with his hand on the koran and I can go on and on................yep you guys are big on rumours when it's the other guy but have one tossed your way and now all of sudden a rumour is out of bounds. Give me a break
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FishaHallic wrote:I did question the fact that Sarah Palins youngest child may actually have been the first child of her daughter.
That's not questioning a fact Einstein, it's called perpetuating a vicious, totally unfounded rumour. I would think someone with your "scary smartness" could distinguish the between the two.

Duh.
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I mean you guys are the one saying Obama is a socialist (with no proof), you guys are the ones questioning his right to run for president (with no proof) you guys are the ones that were saying Obama was a manchurian candidate (with no proof) you are guys are the same ones saying he did not stand for the pledge of allegiance and that he was sworn in with his hand on the koran and I can go on and on................yep you guys are big on rumours when it's the other guy but have one tossed your way and now all of sudden a rumour is out of bounds. Give me a break

Your words Fish

So you equate calling a man a socialist[which would be like calling you a republican] with jumping on a mother that belives in teaching what she thinks is right , but when her daughter makes a mistake loves her anyway.




no I wont give you a break, If you cannot tell the differnce you are on the same level with your buds bass attack and basstrud.

seeing as you lump all of us together, it seem only right to place you with them. Just another --
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FishaHallic wrote:Wait a minute, if Sarah Palin wants to come out as she did as gods gift to all that is right and then preach to us how we should run our life, and pass laws based on her so called strict religious believes then she should be able to pass her own test. I am merely pointing out the flaws in her and your thinking if you think that abstinence is the only thing to teach kids. Sarah Palin will try to pass laws just like that but yet her teenage daughter is having babies and if that is not hypocritical then I don't know what is.

I did not call her daughter a slut or whore or anything for that matter but I did question her mothers breeding and I did question the fact that Sarah Palins youngest child may actually have been the first child of her daughter.

I mean you guys are the one saying Obama is a socialist (with no proof), you guys are the ones questioning his right to run for president (with no proof) you guys are the ones that were saying Obama was a manchurian candidate (with no proof) you are guys are the same ones saying he did not stand for the pledge of allegiance and that he was sworn in with his hand on the koran and I can go on and on................yep you guys are big on rumours when it's the other guy but have one tossed your way and now all of sudden a rumour is out of bounds. Give me a break
I'm still waiting for the name of the republican who called President Obama a terrorist............
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it was the Republicans who cirulated these pics of Sarah Palin:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/palin.asp

?????

While I don't think she was the correct choice for McCain (nor was McCain in fact), she has been smeared by the left on just about every front possible. She's done on a national scale - the smear doctors on the left have seen to that. Fact is, had she not far exceeded expectations both at the convention and during her debate with Joe Biden, you guys wouldn't have gone after her - and her family.

you call her a hypocrit, and you see no hypocracy at all on your side of the isle?

Pull the blinders off Bro.

While i think Ed Begley jr is a total whack job, I respect the hell out of him for talking the talk and walking the walk.

Us 'rich Republicans' are supposed to avoid paying our 'fare share' of taxes. How many high-ranking Dems of late have gotten caught in tax avoidance activity? hypocracy? blinders.... Gimmee a break

Also - I would certainly make the statement with confidence that many more of these smears against the Right make mainstream, front page news (with retractions printed months later on the back pages in small print.
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You guys are right, I just checked SNOPES which is the authority on these type things.

Sarah Palin has 10 subjects where SNOPES chimed in


Barack Obama has 47, YES 4 7 , WHERE SNOPES CHIMED IN.


So your right the dems do dish out the crap but the republicans do it 4 TIMES AS MUCH.
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Hillary Clinton 15

John McCain 10
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StockOption wrote:
FishaHallic wrote:I did question the fact that Sarah Palins youngest child may actually have been the first child of her daughter.
That's not questioning a fact Einstein, it's called perpetuating a vicious, totally unfounded rumour. I would think someone with your "scary smartness" could distinguish the between the two.

Duh.

I am not sure how that is not questioning a fact, and I am no Einstein but then it does not take an Einstein to know that GW Bush sucked, and I knew not to vote for him, can you say that?
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Bob Simard wrote:She's done on a national scale - the smear doctors on the left have seen to that. Fact is, had she not far exceeded expectations both at the convention and during her debate with Joe Biden, you guys wouldn't have gone after her - and her family.
It was when I saw her in unscripted situations I realized that we had another possible George Bush on our hands - but dumber. I was sitting on the fence until then. She blasted me to the Democratic side.

Thank you so much Katie Couric. We owe you a debt of gratitude. I really don't care why she's done on the national scene, I'm just glad she's toast.
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and 100 entries for George W Bush.... God this is pointless....

Rather than simply going 'nah nah nah nah naaaaaa nah'

I will surrender to your massive intellect and superior debating skills.

Done
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Thank you
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FishaHallic wrote:I am not sure how that is not questioning a fact, and I am no Einstein but then it does not take an Einstein to know that GW Bush sucked, and I knew not to vote for him, can you say that?
Because it's not a fact.

Duh.

It's a fact that this was a vicious, unfounded rumor.

The distinction is crystal clear. I am not surprised that you do not see it.
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Bob Simard wrote:I will surrender to your massive intellect and superior debating skills.

Done
+ A really BIG number

LOL

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm right there with you Bob, it's obviously far more productive to count blades of grass on our lawns.
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I still think you are either naive as hell or just an indoctrinated liberal, excuse the redundancy!
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I am still not sure how it is not questioning a fact. Here is the fact Sarah Palin had a son who they named Trig. My question of this fact is did Sarah Palin actually give birth to Trig? I am not perpetuating a rumour, I am not saying that Palins daughter actually gave birth to Trig, but I am questioning whether she did.

Why is there no record of his birth at the hospital that Palin said he was born and why when Palins water supposedly broke did she fly back to Alaska to give birth instead of just giving birth in the state she was in. Why won't she produce a birth certificate. These are not questions you would ask the average person but Sarah Palin is not the average person, she was running as the clean cut, nothing to hide god fearing christian values candidate. If there is nothing to hide lets see the birth certificate.

I think it could be that Trig is actually her daughters first born, she committed fraud with the birth certificate and then got thrust under the spotlight later with her as a VP choice. Remember it's not the crime that is so bad but it's the crimes you commit in the cover up.
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Now, as I start using some republican tactics, I am now naive, sick, disgusting and wayout of bounds. Where does that leave the republicans then?
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Fish,

Your ideals, your way of life and your politics will never resonate in this crowd.
Why, because everything you and your liberal friends stand for goes against the grain of almost all people that enjoy the sport of fishing and hunting. You represent the very people that have slowly chipped away our rights to enjoy this sport and in time will do away with it entirely. :evil:
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Tobe wrote:Fish,

Your ideals, your way of life and your politics will never resonate in this crowd.
Why, because everything you and your liberal friends stand for goes against the grain of almost all people that enjoy the sport of fishing and hunting. You represent the very people that have slowly chipped away our rights to enjoy this sport and in time will do away with it entirely. :evil:
And this one could go in the off topic section ;)
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Greg_Cornish wrote:
Tobe wrote:Fish,

Your ideals, your way of life and your politics will never resonate in this crowd.
Why, because everything you and your liberal friends stand for goes against the grain of almost all people that enjoy the sport of fishing and hunting. You represent the very people that have slowly chipped away our rights to enjoy this sport and in time will do away with it entirely. :evil:
And this one could go in the off topic section ;)
You did'nt mind being "off topic" when you were taking pots shots at Sarah Palin! :oops:
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Are those the same rights that we lost under your last president?
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I'll tell ya what Fishahallic,

If you list all of the rights that have been taken away from you by conservatives or Republicans, I will list those from liberals and Democrats and we will compare them!
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Tobe wrote:You did'nt mind being "off topic" when you were taking pots shots at Sarah Palin! :oops:
Oh, you mean when I responded with with a joke to Rod about Sarah Palin when he brought up Sarah Palin?
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Yep, thats right Greg
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Tobe wrote:Yep, thats right Greg
OOOOOOOkay! :?: I don't think anyone named Tobe should get more than 5 bucks an hour.
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