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some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:14 am

the dead 11lber someone caught out of Perris. That type of thing always makes me happy

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... 5%26sa%3DN

notice the yellow eyes and asphalt on the side and all the scales missing.. sweet handling of a trophy. I'd like to drag this guy across some asphalt.

macinckirk · Post by **macinckirk** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:18 am

come on John thats fish taco's for a week

DL · Post by DL » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:20 am

Its a shame the fish gods would allow that fish to be caught by a tool that would drag it around the lake on a stringer

Alex M. · Post by **Alex M.** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:02 am

Ghey

FR0G · Post by **FR0G** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:17 am

We already ripped him apart on the SBN forum. He won the photo contest with that dead fish. Here is the story on it though:

To those that would like to know the story behind this very special fish, and to help you better understand my dilemma, here you go.

After bringing this fish to the boat this is the card I was dealt. I didn't ask for it, it just is what it is. This fish looked to have been caught several times before and I could tell she was in bad shape as she rolled up on the surface at the boat. Obviously she wasn't properly handled in the past and there's nothing I could do to change that fact. I tried everything to revive her, but in the end she just gave up. I will state for the record there was no abuse on my part, sometimes sick fish just die and you have no control over that.

At first I was absolutely horrified at the site of this fish! Who could have treated her with such blatant disregard, and why! A special fish like this deserves to be treated with the utmost respect, careful handling, and quick return to her watery safe haven. How did she get into this shape? I don't know, and I can't speak for those that were part of her history before me. I can only tell you about when our paths collided together. I must have been picked to be the future bearer of her soul. Believe me, I struggled back and forth all night with being very, very, sad and then on the opposite side, feeling extremely blessed in a deep spiritual way. God only knows the timing of the crossing of our paths (why our life paths crossed at that very moment, and why I had been chosen to carry her soul, well I will leave that explanation up to him). I know this, I'm part of her and she's part of me...........forever!

Hopefully there will not be many more of you who stand in judgment and condemnation! I did nothing wrong in catching or fighting this fish. I didn't mishandle or intentionally abuse her. I didn't catch her on ultra-light tackle with an extended or long fight, I didn't flip her into the boat to recklessly flop about on the deck, and I didn't knowingly do anything to cause her to die, she just chose me to pass her soul too. When you catch one that passes its soul to you, you will know exactly what Iâ€™ve struggled with.

It's only through some long soul searching of my own that I have come to be at peace and understand the catching of this fish as a very special blessing!

Sounds like she was in pretty bad shape when he caught her. Oh well, still sucks. Bass don't live forever though.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:21 am

yeah im sure the dirt on the side and the gravel stuck to her belly were from before too.

Whatever people need to tell themselves to sleep at night.

Alex M. · Post by **Alex M.** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:32 am

some guy wrote:yeah im sure the dirt on the side and the gravel stuck to her belly were from before too. Whatever people need to tell themselves to sleep at night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZZd9UGV0uI

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:35 am

exaxctly Alex. Such a shame a beautiful fish like that is now gone. Not this first time and wont be the last either.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:43 am

whats with all this crossing paths, and soul stuff? LMAO thats some funny sh#t right there! My bad..

to bad for the fish!

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:01 pm

g-man wrote:whats with all this crossing paths, and soul stuff? LMAO thats some funny sh#t right there! My bad..

to bad for the fish!

he sounds like a hippie.

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:25 pm

some guy wrote:yeah im sure the dirt on the side and the gravel stuck to her belly were from before too. Whatever people need to tell themselves to sleep at night.

The discoloring on the side looks to me like it was allready on ice.

kopper_bass · Post by **kopper_bass** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:34 pm

All,
i dont know this guy, nor anything about this issue, but i looked at that photo and i am 100% confident some comments are wrong and unfounded, and that makes me more "happy

" than seeing a dead fish now and then.

Anyone who has ever caught a Delta Bass knows what those dark spots are on its belly. That is NOT gravel, nor dirt, ...... its a fungus. I have caught countless bass that have this grungy, dark bottom and looks like they have been laying in mud for weeks, but its not, its a fungus!

Where in that picture is there anything about stringers? Did the guy really say he kept the fish on a stringer, or is that just another unfounded conclusion?

Personally, I dont keep large bass for trophies, for eating, or for any other reason. But i do know this.

1) Just because someone else decides to do something that i dont do or necessarilly agree with, doesnt make that person bad or me better than them. it just makes us different and i am accepting of that.

2) Bass die, for whatever reason. Nobody know how or why that bass died, but it did. This guy tried to explain it, but everyone just wants to ride him on it and can't let it go.

Who really is the worse person here?
a) the guy who caught a monster fish that just so happens died in the process, or was kept for dinner, a mount, whatever?
- or -
b) all the guys on here who jump to unfounded conclusions; have a "think like me, or else" attitude, and who want to crucify a guy who exercised his perrfectly legal rights to keep a fish, just because they don't like it.

Personally, i dont think this guy is a bad steward to fishing. I take his explanation at face value and i move on.

Peace,

Kopper

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:52 pm

I have caught countless bass out of Perris. None over the 10lb mark. Some pretty close though that have lived in that body of water for quite some time. I am very familiar with the fungus you speak of. When I lived on Old Hickory lake in TN a great of bass had this. With that being said, I have never seen a fish out of Lake Perris that has the fungus. I thought the same thing and saved the photo to my pc and opened it up with my photoshop program and enlarged it greatly to examine before it posted. Maybe you should do the same before you pass judgement?. Hopefully I am wrong and you are right. Thank you for your .02

There is no "BETTER" person you speak of. I don't like to see giant bass dead, killed, on stringers drug across ground, killed because of a live baiter etc etc but thats just me. Good to know that you are ok with the depletion of trophy bass population. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, which is the beauty of the public.

But to put it in terms more familiar for you...

Who's better? The guys who hates to see big bass dead or the guy who passes judgement on the whole forum? Practice what you preach amigo.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:13 pm

Take a look at all the pics of fish out of lake perris over 10lbs. Inlcuding the lake record. I cannot find a single fish with it.

Is it impossible = no
hard to believe = yes
Am I a biologist = no.

http://www.snakebite.net/images/Perris.jpg

I am leaving the office for the day. Feel free to bash me. I will respond tomorrow if the thread doesnt go haywire tonight.

westcoastbass · Post by **westcoastbass** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:33 pm

Thats pretty sad to see, I can only imagine how many eggs that fish was going to lay.

This is how bass populations are devastated, I hope he is proud of his picture

mac (Doyle McEwen) · Post by **mac (Doyle McEwen)** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:33 pm

It is obvious the fish is dead..Even though many of us regret its passing, that isn't going to change it, it is not going to return to life..I can see where the dark spots on the fishes belly could well be dirt or even asphalt..Does that mean the fish wasn't handled properly, not at all..The dirt/asphalt/fungus or whatever could have just as easily gotten in that location after death as before or during..Perhaps it was laid on the ground prior to the picture being taken, it wouldn't matter as the fish was already deceased..The discoloring in the scales is common with fish either kept on ice or in water after they die..Yes, it is unfortunate to see a trophy fish die, but it does happen..Sometimes it is the fault of the angler, sometimes not..There is nothing wrong with keeping a legally caught trophy although most of us wouldn't..Everyone is entitled to make their own decision on that..Now if getting all over the guys case that caught the fish makes you feel better, go for it..It still won't change the outcome for that fish..If only it could we would all be elated..

mac

elfish16 · Post by **elfish16** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:42 pm

I am NOT going to pass judgement on anyone...but its REALLY hard to believe that fish that is in that BAD of shape would eat a swimbait. My personal opinion! I've seen some bad looking fish in my day and they won't hardly move let alone eat a swimbait.

its a bummer to see a biggun die regardless the way especially with the downfall of the teener fish in Perris...you just don't see those monsters anymore... Hmmm....stripers maybe the culprit???

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:59 pm

I have seen 12 pounders here taken home and that is a pig in AZ. As long as it is legal then the person has every right to keep it. I let everything go but some people don't. I worked on a habitat project and asked a G&F biologist and he said the prime spawning contribution is over by the time the fish gets that big. The slot is really to protect the prime spawning size. The worst part is that we all want a crack at those donkeys and if they let them go many people can enjoy them. That's life.

Tin Can · Post by **Tin Can** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:17 pm

FR0G wrote:We already ripped him apart on the SBN forum. He won the photo contest with that dead fish. Here is the story on it though:
To those that would like to know the story behind this very special fish, and to help you better understand my dilemma, here you go.

After bringing this fish to the boat this is the card I was dealt. I didn't ask for it, it just is what it is. This fish looked to have been caught several times before and I could tell she was in bad shape as she rolled up on the surface at the boat. Obviously she wasn't properly handled in the past and there's nothing I could do to change that fact. I tried everything to revive her, but in the end she just gave up. I will state for the record there was no abuse on my part, sometimes sick fish just die and you have no control over that.

At first I was absolutely horrified at the site of this fish! Who could have treated her with such blatant disregard, and why! A special fish like this deserves to be treated with the utmost respect, careful handling, and quick return to her watery safe haven. How did she get into this shape? I don't know, and I can't speak for those that were part of her history before me. I can only tell you about when our paths collided together. I must have been picked to be the future bearer of her soul. Believe me, I struggled back and forth all night with being very, very, sad and then on the opposite side, feeling extremely blessed in a deep spiritual way. God only knows the timing of the crossing of our paths (why our life paths crossed at that very moment, and why I had been chosen to carry her soul, well I will leave that explanation up to him). I know this, I'm part of her and she's part of me...........forever!

Hopefully there will not be many more of you who stand in judgment and condemnation! I did nothing wrong in catching or fighting this fish. I didn't mishandle or intentionally abuse her. I didn't catch her on ultra-light tackle with an extended or long fight, I didn't flip her into the boat to recklessly flop about on the deck, and I didn't knowingly do anything to cause her to die, she just chose me to pass her soul too. When you catch one that passes its soul to you, you will know exactly what Iâ€™ve struggled with.

It's only through some long soul searching of my own that I have come to be at peace and understand the catching of this fish as a very special blessing!
Sounds like she was in pretty bad shape when he caught her. Oh well, still sucks. Bass don't live forever though.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read! She passed her soul to him? LMFAO! This guy, if nothing else, is out of his god damn mind!

Rob Dickson · Post by **Rob Dickson** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:00 pm

wow this dude should start fishing tournaments. Since he is one with the fish now maybe she will tell him where all her sisters are. There will be plenty others just like this one with spring approaching.

stickbait · Post by **stickbait** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:58 pm

Right on ...

So many people jump to conclusion so quicky ..they have all the answers by looking at a photo.. seems like there is always alot of know it alls and they were not even there !

Even if he did want to keep it .. so what .. that is with in his rights to do so.. and does not give anyone the rights to bash him!

Very nice post !!!!

kopper_bass wrote:All,
i dont know this guy, nor anything about this issue, but i looked at that photo and i am 100% confident some comments are wrong and unfounded, and that makes me more "happy " than seeing a dead fish now and then.

Anyone who has ever caught a Delta Bass knows what those dark spots are on its belly. That is NOT gravel, nor dirt, ...... its a fungus. I have caught countless bass that have this grungy, dark bottom and looks like they have been laying in mud for weeks, but its not, its a fungus!

Where in that picture is there anything about stringers? Did the guy really say he kept the fish on a stringer, or is that just another unfounded conclusion?

Personally, I dont keep large bass for trophies, for eating, or for any other reason. But i do know this.

1) Just because someone else decides to do something that i dont do or necessarilly agree with, doesnt make that person bad or me better than them. it just makes us different and i am accepting of that.

2) Bass die, for whatever reason. Nobody know how or why that bass died, but it did. This guy tried to explain it, but everyone just wants to ride him on it and can't let it go.

Who really is the worse person here?
a) the guy who caught a monster fish that just so happens died in the process, or was kept for dinner, a mount, whatever?
- or -
b) all the guys on here who jump to unfounded conclusions; have a "think like me, or else" attitude, and who want to crucify a guy who exercised his perrfectly legal rights to keep a fish, just because they don't like it.

Personally, i dont think this guy is a bad steward to fishing. I take his explanation at face value and i move on.

Peace,

Kopper

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:45 pm

You all are in left field and this particular fish is old news.

Yes, the angler came forward and explained indeed the fish was dead. Im not going to recant what he said about why the fish died, but I can tell you he seemed honest when he explained what happened. He felt very bad about the fish dying.

Im the biggest critic when it comes to people killing the wrong fish, but I feel confident this angler was being honest that the fishs death was unavoidable.

Do your homework before you jump on the bandwagon.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:53 am

What I don't get is this photo is nearly a year old.
Why bring it in here from another website now?

Stuff happens, fish die and so on.

"Oh the travesty of it all!!!"

Sounds like maybe a few folks just need to go wet a line and release some nervous tension or something.

sTony

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:45 am

I do not frequent that website. Therefore i would have no idea this was posted there a year ago. I was using google images looking for pictures of shad to paint baits. If you enter Lake Perris shad into google images you will see that this is the second photo that comes up. If you then right click the picture and go to properties you will see that the picture was created 2-25-09. Hence why i posted it. I hope this helps you understand better now.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:50 am

Steve wrote:You all are in left field and this particular fish is old news.

Yes, the angler came forward and explained indeed the fish was dead. Im not going to recant what he said about why the fish died, but I can tell you he seemed honest when he explained what happened. He felt very bad about the fish dying.

Im the biggest critic when it comes to people killing the wrong fish, but I feel confident this angler was being honest that the fishs death was unavoidable.

Do your homework before you jump on the bandwagon.

I have a question for you. How many swimbait fish have you caught? How many looked like they would die when they got near the boat?

Another reason why im not so sure about this gentlemens credibility. He wrote he caught the bait in a swimbait and then said he caught it on very light tackle.

Either way the fish is dead.

Stony.. I fish atleast 3 times a week.. you are right.. that's not enough

The beauty of free speech allows us to express our opinions. I aspire to as wise as all you one day. Just maybe I can pull it off

Robert F · Post by **Robert F** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:11 am

some guy wrote:The beauty of free speech allows us to express our opinions. I aspire to as wise as all you one day. Just maybe I can pull it off

True dat. Once again people whining about people whining. Maybe somebody can start a thread about this thread.

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:18 am

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:24 am

for even bring it up on this forum. All of this is opinionated. I'm not going to sit here and try and prove my opinion to be right or wrong.

rediculous.

I do not like seeing large bass dead. Especially in bodies of water I fish. Im a huge advocate of catch and release. I have never seen such a large fish in such bad shape with those markings on the side. The only other time I have seen those markings is when I was a deckhand for years on a so cal sportfisher. The sandbass and calico's would have the same look from sitting in the bottom of the gunny sack all day. I would clean a couple hundred fish a day and majority would look like this from being in the sack all day.

For you salt guys reading this and wondering.. yes i release all Calico's I catch.

It is the man's right to take the fish home and enjoy a good meal, just like it is my right to express my discontent.

DL · Post by DL » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:34 am

John, you should have known better

I'm calling the ACLU on you...

The way this guy was vehemently defended, you'd think he was from Northern California

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:35 am

Everyone is entitled to an opinion DL. Even if they are from norcal.

buddy brown · Post by **buddy brown** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:38 am

That bass looks delicious (I'm joking). He could have revived that fish most likely showing everyone and their mom the fish and the poor girl shriveled up in the sun. Particles of that fish are organic matter on the bottom of Santa Monica bay

but it still exists in the circle of life

IF a fish is not doing good stick it in your livewell w/ the air on and revive the fish and make sure it has recovered and get it back in the water. I bet when the dude grubbed on it he had to convince himself that it was walleye Mcnugglets or sabertooth corvina

DL · Post by DL » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:04 am

some guy wrote:Everyone is entitled to an opinion DL. Even if they are from norcal.

WORD

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:09 am

Naw, we argue up here with each other just as much or more then we do so with you guys down there.

sTony

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:06 am

mac (Doyle McEwen) · Post by **mac (Doyle McEwen)** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:59 am

You know the only really bad mistake made by anyone was posting the picture on the internet..

mac

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:41 am

some guy wrote: I have a question for you. How many swimbait fish have you caught? How many looked like they would die when they got near the boat?

Ive caught my share of swimbait fish, and have seen my share caught where the stingers caused some problems. Some of those fish may have died after release and they probably would have died if put in a livewell. Ive also seen big fish just die for no reason at all.

The person explained he did not intentionally kill that fish. And the only thing he did wrong was post a pic of a dead fish.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:00 am

Do you guys really think he boated the fish and it died within seconds? He mentioned that when he caught the fish it was in really bad shape. He should have released the fish right there. I find it very hard to believe that a fish that beat upon site would be willing to chase down a swimbait and try to eat it. IF and thats a big IF this was the case why did he not release the fish after a quick photo?

I was unfamiliar with the posting a year ago. Did he catch this fish during a tournament? Why did he put such a stressed looking fish in the well and not release it on sight. He obviously was very proud of the fish, hence posting a picture of a dead fish on a trophy hunter site were people heavily stress C & R. Im sorry I have a very hard time believing this guys story.

Hopefully we can all make some good out of a bad situation and if we are all blessed enough to "cross paths" with a trophy bass that the importance proper fish handling will become second nature. Spring is around the corner and a lot of big girls will be hooked. Hopefully everyone handles their big girls properly.

http://www.calfishing.com/freshwater/ca ... pment.html

here is a link for any of you out there who care to educate themselves more on this topic.

FR0G · Post by **FR0G** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:01 pm

Ahh spring, my favorite time. But also my least favorite. Gives the bucket fisherman (people who keep their catches to eat) a chance to catch a whole lot of bass and even big ones. It sucks to see large fish get caught and kept on a stringer at your local lake. Trust me, I know how it feels. You get that burning anger inside of you and you just want to run over to that person and stick that stringer down his throat and toss him the the water to beat in the sun. God, I hate those people. I have even tried explaining the importance of catch and release to them, but they still don't give a rats butt. Heck, I even offered to catch trout or bluegill for them in exchange for releasing all their bass. It doesn't matter how hard you try, some people just won't change their ways.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:57 pm

sTony

Alex M. · Post by **Alex M.** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:56 pm

sTony wrote:

sTony

BWAAAAHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA.......Nice...Oh sTony One!

BShafer · Post by **BShafer** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:25 pm

Same topic rehashed an beaten to death every year by that I mean keeping trophy fish get over it fish die they don't last forever if this was a regular issue with this person then I would understand it, but I would still beleave he has the right.

Me I beleave that everyone that owns a valid fishing license has the right to take home any leagal fish they desire to, thats their right no matter how much you or I dislike it. Me I would like to see the fish released safely to be caught another day but not at the expense of my right to keep one if I want to.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:39 pm

sTony wrote:

sTony

+1

Melones_IS_Mine · Post by **Melones_IS_Mine** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:20 pm

In the picture caption:Story:
"This toad was caught at Lake Perris during a visit to fish with friends in SoCal. She surprised the heck out of me and absolutely made my day!"

Well, whoever caught her was fairly happy judging by the guy's smile. He doesn't look too broken up about it. This doesn't coincide with the story explaining how he became Aqua Man when their' souls merged as one. So that and the picture confuses me. This guy is full of carp-yes-carp(that's worse than crap).

I'm not ok with the depletion of trophy bass per se, but one thing I can't stand is seeing "Trophy Guy" anchored on a point using live crawdads, hook the fish so deep that it dies, and just leave it floating in the water. It's rare to kill a bass while fishing for sport, but it does happen. It sucks! If it ever happens to you and the fish is legal, take it home or find someone that will eat it.

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