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glx 853 or 854 jig rod

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I mostly use 3/8 jigs the most and some 1/2oz with 15lb floro. I am concerned that the 854 is going to be too heavy in action and weight to fish the 3/8 oz all day. If you had to pick either one what one would you get? Also I dont go to the delta a lot, thanks
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Definately the 854
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I know the 854 is popular because i called to do the expidite service and they are out. It would be a 3 week wait, so basically I have a couple of weeks to decide.
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GLX Loomis are made off shore today, not the rods they were.
Lamiglas XC-704 or XC-705 are nearly identicle to Lommis and better quality. You could buy 1 of each and still have money left over.
I haven't fished the new Lamiglas Excel series, under $110, you could get a new reel for the new rod.
If your are set on Loomis then go with the 854, it's a better all around jig then the 853.
I fish 7/16 oz jigs with the XC705 and make long casts in clear water lakes using 12 to 14 lb FC. When casting jigs you need a rod that can get good hooks sets and control the bass.
You might also want to look at Dobyns DX 784C ML.
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R.Cook wrote:Definately the 854
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Got both BCR 853 and 854. If you are mostly using 3/8 oz. jigs, the 853 with 12# fluoro works very well. For the 1/2 oz. or heavier jigs, go with the 854. I also use the 853 for Senkos. They are both excellent top end rods.
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Got both BCR 853 and 854. If you are mostly using 3/8 oz. jigs, the 853 with 12# fluoro works very well. For the 1/2 oz. or heavier jigs, go with the 854. I also use the 853 for Senkos. They are both excellent top end rods.
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Oldschool wrote:GLX Loomis are made off shore today, not the rods they were.
Lamiglas XC-704 or XC-705 are nearly identicle to Lommis and better quality. You could buy 1 of each and still have money left over.
I haven't fished the new Lamiglas Excel series, under $110, you could get a new reel for the new rod.
If your are set on Loomis then go with the 854, it's a better all around jig then the 853.
I fish 7/16 oz jigs with the XC705 and make long casts in clear water lakes using 12 to 14 lb FC. When casting jigs you need a rod that can get good hooks sets and control the bass.
You might also want to look at Dobyns DX 784C ML.
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I was not aware that the GLX rods were made off shore. I thought all Loomis rods were made in America, still in Washington. I can say though, the quality is there.

510, I would say the 854.
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Neither was I. As far as I know, they still have their factory in Washington and manufacture rod blanks using proprietary materials.
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Loomis rods are still made in the USA and the blanks are not made off shore.

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I knew that was'nt accurate.
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For 3/8---the 853; I have two of both.
The 854 will make you happier @5/8 and if you want to fish much of jigs over 3/8 go w/ 854 as you will be happy w/ versatility....but if solely for 3/8'ths---------the 853 is perfect.
but I travel w the 854's if going to the Delta.
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It's my understanding, since Gary sold his company to Shimano, the rods being laid up and made at Loomis in Washington are fly rods. The bass rod blanks, to the best of my knowledge, are made off shore and assembled in the Loomis plant, ie; made in America.
If I'm wrong, except my appology, if I'm correct, the rods are still high quality products.
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I have the 853, 854, and the 855. The 853 with a 7:1 core is hands down my first rod I pick up when fishing the jig. It has all the power you need for green bass unless you are looking for a flip stick. I have pulled 8lbers through trees and over rocks with that rod.

10lb - 843, 12lb - 853, 16lb 854 and 20 - 25lb flouro on the 855.

The 853 is the most versatile in my opinion.. good open water rod and good light structure rod. It all depends on what depth and structure you plan on targeting.
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The blank MATERIAL is produced off shore and arrives in WA in sheet form. However the blanks are constructed/rolled/put together in America at the factory in Washington, for all of their rods, not just Fly rods. The cork typically comes from Portugal, and the guides/reel seats are made by Fuji. They take the best of all worlds and throw 'em together to make great rods that are made in America, unlike most rod manufacturers who mass produce their rods at factories overseas. Hope this clears a thing or two up.

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Thanks Andy; that clears a few thing up. You are saying nothing has changed at Loomis and still make the rods the same way before Shimano purchased the company. I stand corrected!
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Good to here that they are stilll made in USA. I felt bolth of the rods at outdoor pro shop in oak. They bolth felt great. I am going for the 854 because I never throw jigs under 3/8, if I was throwing 1/4oz I would get the 853. thanks for you input on my decision.
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I was looking for a rod lately to throw 3/8-1/2 oz, and was looking at the 784... I was told by the 'man' that the 784 was good, but a better choiced would be the 703... The man is ML.
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I apologize for coming into this thread but I wanted to make sure the truth was posted about GLoomis.

GLoomis rods are still made in the US at the factory located in Woodland, WA. GLoomis rods will never be built overseas. That is something Shimano will not change.

The material comes from the US and from overseas. Much of the carbon used to build rods does come from overseas. This is because most of the higher grade carbon is made overseas. Toray for example is probably one of the largest carbon suppliers in the world.

I do know that some of the material they use does come from the US. One major supplier is a large aerospace company located up in the Northwest :wink:

Shimano has owned the company since 1997. Nothing has changed as far as how they build the rods or where they source the material. We did help them out a while back to source cork because the supplier they used closed the doors. To my knowledge there are no Cork Oak trees or cork suppliers in the US since the tree grows in Europe and Northern Africa only.

They use Fuji components because of their high quality. This includes guides and reel seats. This is the same reason we use Fuji components along with several rod manufacturers.
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A jig rod, like any other rod for that matter, is a personal touch tool that should feel right to the angler. That means pick up the rod, put on a reel with line and a jig, close to the weight you want to fish, and test it by casting.
The perfect jig rod for anyone depends on how they jig fish. I spend my time jig fishing with a casting presentation, anywhere from 50' up to 100' using 7/16 to 5/8 oz jigs. For me a 4 to 5 power rod 6 1/2' to 7', fast action rod, light weight, made of state of the art materials, from a top quality rod maker, is what I look for.
I started fishing Fenwick, then Phenix and Lamgilas rods before Loomis made bass rods, they are excellent rod makers and I own serveral from all those manufacturers, including Loomis.
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bantam1 wrote:I apologize for coming into this thread but I wanted to make sure the truth was posted about GLoomis.

GLoomis rods are still made in the US at the factory located in Woodland, WA. GLoomis rods will never be built overseas. That is something Shimano will not change.

The material comes from the US and from overseas. Much of the carbon used to build rods does come from overseas. This is because most of the higher grade carbon is made overseas. Toray for example is probably one of the largest carbon suppliers in the world.

I do know that some of the material they use does come from the US. One major supplier is a large aerospace company located up in the Northwest :wink:

Shimano has owned the company since 1997. Nothing has changed as far as how they build the rods or where they source the material. We did help them out a while back to source cork because the supplier they used closed the doors. To my knowledge there are no Cork Oak trees or cork suppliers in the US since the tree grows in Europe and Northern Africa only.

They use Fuji components because of their high quality. This includes guides and reel seats. This is the same reason we use Fuji components along with several rod manufacturers.
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Thats whats happen when you pass on 2nd hand info from reliable source, I'm guilty and apologize for the mis-information.
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If you are night fishing or targeting big bass, I suggest the 854 - just a little more backbone!
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