deflating deep fish

kane-o · Post by **kane-o** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:26 pm

any links on how and where to ? and i also know that you can fizz the through the mouth ? and where do you get the needles you need to do it ? thanks

offduty · Post by **offduty** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:18 pm

I had a guide show me something I feel is better. Take your marker buoy and use a 6-8 oz football shaped weight on it. Put the weight in the fishes mouth and put him in the water. when he gets deep give a tug and it will pull the weight out. Done deal, safer, easier and better for the fish.
Rich

LawDog · Post by **LawDog** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:22 pm

Thats a great idea offduty but I dont think it works very well during a tournament. I use the needle and go through the mouth. You put the needle right in between the crushers and push. Its much easier than going through the side in my opinion. You can get the needles at any tackle shop. I was at Coyote Bait and Tackle tonight and know they have them there. Give them a call.

Scott Povio

Robert F · Post by **Robert F** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:25 pm

Anglers Marine stocks two of them. There is a short grey one and a longer one by bends mender. Get that one if you want to go through mouth. Instructions come with it.

offduty · Post by **offduty** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:28 pm

Why would it not be a good idea in a tournament? Can not spend 2 minutes to release a fish this way. Not trying to start anything, just curious.

Rich

macinckirk · Post by **macinckirk** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:33 pm

because that fish has to sit in a live well for hrs. IF YOU GET A DEEP FISH THIS TIME OF YEAR AND THAT COULD BE IN 15' OF WATER IF THAT FISH IS COMING OUT OF 25

then that FISH WILL NEED to be fizzed WITHIN 5 min or it may not make it after the weight in 3-5 hrs later

if you can get that fish down fast in the water thats fine but if its going in the live well then you HAVE TO BE READY TO FIZZ EVERY FISH YOU GET

N.A.R · Post by **N.A.R** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:34 pm

offduty wrote:I had a guide show me something I feel is better. Take your marker buoy and use a 6-8 oz football shaped weight on it. Put the weight in the fishes mouth and put him in the water. when he gets deep give a tug and it will pull the weight out. Done deal, safer, easier and better for the fish.
Rich

What? I've never heard of this.....

macinckirk · Post by **macinckirk** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:38 pm

N.A.R wrote:
offduty wrote:I had a guide show me something I feel is better. Take your marker buoy and use a 6-8 oz football shaped weight on it. Put the weight in the fishes mouth and put him in the water. when he gets deep give a tug and it will pull the weight out. Done deal, safer, easier and better for the fish.
Rich
What? I've never heard of this.....

that works great if your fishing deep (ie 40' plus and you pull a fish up FAST) BUT IN A TRNY NEVER WILL WORK unless your trying to cull that fish in 2-3 mins and its never been in the live well

offduty · Post by **offduty** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:38 pm

Wow, guess I brain farted pretty good on that one. Sorry I was not thinking about taking fish to scales. Guess I was not thinking much at all. I dont fish tourneys so it didnt register.

Robert F · Post by **Robert F** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:57 pm

N.A.R wrote:
offduty wrote:I had a guide show me something I feel is better. Take your marker buoy and use a 6-8 oz football shaped weight on it. Put the weight in the fishes mouth and put him in the water. when he gets deep give a tug and it will pull the weight out. Done deal, safer, easier and better for the fish.
Rich
What? I've never heard of this.....

Actually better than the needle if the fish is not going to the scales. I do not think you need that much weight. We sent 'em down with a balance beam tied to a marker on some deep fish at Falcon.

It was lightly clipped to the lip. Just the weight of the beam sent them swimming downward. A light tug released the alligator clip.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:19 pm

youtube search fizzing bass. you'll get tons of good advice.

kane-o · Post by **kane-o** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:34 pm

Robert F wrote:Anglers Marine stocks two of them. There is a short grey one and a longer one by bends mender. Get that one if you want to go through mouth. Instructions come with it.

do you know what they call these neadles ?

bryanmc · Post by **bryanmc** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:26 am

Here you go... Best $5 you'll ever spend.

http://www.basstackledepot.com/bendsmender.aspx

Kwin · Post by **Kwin** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:50 am

When deflating the bass DO NOT let all of the air out as I have witnessed in the past. Let out enough air as so the fish is not positively buoyant & can regain it's equilibrium. If all the air is let out the fish will sink & have to refill its gas bladder....if it can.

macinckirk · Post by **macinckirk** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:07 am

Kwin wrote:When deflating the bass DO NOT let all of the air out as I have witnessed in the past. Let out enough air as so the fish is not positively buoyant & can regain it's equilibrium. If all the air is let out the fish will sink & have to refill its gas bladder....if it can.

Kwin, is right I should of added this, don't press on the sides of the bass just let the air come out in the livewell water, when it stops pull the needle even if you think there is more air in there thats when things go to far when you start to press that last little air out

macinckirk · Post by **macinckirk** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:12 am

Greg_Cornish wrote:youtube search fizzing bass. you'll get tons of good advice.

never use / go on there but here is a link looks like some good info

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... type=&aq=f

TXRIGGED · Post by **TXRIGGED** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:23 pm

I'll sign that memo! The BendsMender is soo easy it's stupid.

You hold your fish by the mouth, hold 'em over the water in the livewell, stick the needle into his throat, submerge him into the livewell water so that the end of the snorkel goes under, watch the bubbles pour out, when it is almost done, simply pull the assembly from his throat, and let go of your fish in the live well. Done!

You should hear a hissing noise when you drop the needle into the fish's throat.

Just follow the instructions and you'll be fine. Search "bendsmender" on google and you should find it.

I used it on about 7 fish last Feb at Shasta, never lost a fish.

Good luck!

LawDog · Post by **LawDog** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:29 pm

I got another question. What do you do when the fish's air bladder come out of the mouth? I caught a fish in 40+ feet and did'nt feel like I horsed it up but the bladder came out. I fizzed him and put him in the livewell. The fish survived the day and swam away when I released him but the bladder was still partially comming out of his mouth. Any suggestions?

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:52 pm

THAT IS NOT THE BLADDER!!! That is actually the fish's stomach lining. DO NOT puncture it.

Search the archives here - Mike Guisti has addressed this previously, and there are many threads discussing fizzing bass and the pros/cons of fizzing through the mouth, through the side, using weights, baskets,etc...

Just searching with the keyword "fizz" turned up 49 threads since 2006, with every aspect of the topic covered thoroughly.

Roger

ash · Post by **ash** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:43 pm

Scott Shambre hooked me up awitha few pens converted in to needles...I dont think you need a special too, just a few 18g needles.

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:48 pm

You can get the larger needles from a vetrinary supply - they work great.

Roger

brambo0311 · Post by **brambo0311** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:40 pm

I use a worm threader needle or a old shot I gave the dog. Got it at the feed store. I have one of the real ones for fizin fish, but I stowed it in a special place on the boat I can't find.

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:37 am

I've got at least three... one in the dash, one in my pouch I always take with me, and one in my center console utility box. Don't get caught in a tournament without one when you need it - can happen any time of year in nearly any depth... they don't have to come out of 30+ feet to need to be fizzed.

Roger

jack65274 · Post by **jack65274** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:19 pm

Question......if you catch a bass from deep water and intend to release it immediately does it still need to be fizzed prior to release?

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:02 pm

Not usually... typically they can acclimate themselves without intervention, unless you brought it up fast from pretty deep water.

Roger

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