IT COUNTS!

[leachman90]

Kuritas fish stands.



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[StockOption]

Yep, IGFA just accepted the fish as a tie to the existing record.

[Chaozu]

AWESOME!

[Oldschool]

It's about time we have a world record bass with all the proper documentation. Congratulations Kurita.
Why list the Kurita bass as 22 lbs 4 ounces? it should be listed as 22 lbs 5 ounces, it's actaul weight and call it a tie.
Tom

[biteme]

Congrats to him. Must be a great feeling.

[elfish16]

Congrats....glad to see it held up! Monster fish and awesome to see it went through the rigors of the World Record process and pass it all!

Eric

[Nico]

It's about time we have a world record bass with all the proper documentation. Congratulations Kurita.
Why list the Kurita bass as 22 lbs 4 ounces? it should be listed as 22 lbs 5 ounces, it's actaul weight and call it a tie.
Tom

The actual weight was 22 lbs 4.9 oz

IGFA did the right thing by not rounding up weights. Unlike all the worthless news outlets who called it 5 oz

Good news either way.

[Brian]

WHAT A BUNCH OF BULL CRAP.............

[fish_food]

It's about time we have a world record bass with all the proper documentation. Congratulations Kurita.
Why list the Kurita bass as 22 lbs 4 ounces? it should be listed as 22 lbs 5 ounces, it's actaul weight and call it a tie.
Tom

The actual weight was 22 lbs 4.9 oz

IGFA did the right thing by not rounding up weights. Unlike all the worthless news outlets who called it 5 oz

Good news either way.

I've seen the weight quoted out to an additional sig fig at 22 lbs 4.97 oz...

[Oldschool]

It's about time we have a world record bass with all the proper documentation. Congratulations Kurita.
Why list the Kurita bass as 22 lbs 4 ounces? it should be listed as 22 lbs 5 ounces, it's actaul weight and call it a tie.
Tom

The actual weight was 22 lbs 4.9 oz

IGFA did the right thing by not rounding up weights. Unlike all the worthless news outlets who called it 5 oz

Good news either way.

Lets see; I catch a 22 lb 6 oz bass it's the new world record because of the 2 ounce rule. Kurita catches a 22 lbs 4.9 bass and it's a tie with the 22 lb 4 oz Perry bass. Makes perfect logic to me, since my bass is 1.1 ounce heavier.
Tom

[some guy]

I wonder how many kids/adults this is going to motivate to start live baiting our local waters now.

[Oldschool]

I wonder how many kids/adults this is going to motivate to start live baiting our local waters now.

Remember the 80's when the bait fisherman pounded lakes Castiac and Casitas, it could be like that this pre spawn.
Tom

[some guy]

Tom... I was born in 81

[CN]

Tom... I was born in 81

Oh to be in the 20's again.

[Oldschool]

Tom... I was born in 81

How time flies. The quagga mussel issue may help Casitas from being over harvested and the stripers have already damaged Castaic's big bass population. So you could be lucky and not witness wall to wall baiters this time around on those lakes.
Better get back on topic and wish Kurita good luck with his marketing efforts. How do you say Bodacious Bass in japanese?
Tom

[acm95301]

I choose not to use livebait, But I don't see a problem with it. The problem I have is when I guy camps out on a good spot and catches 100, gut hooking them, and tosses them back, meanwhile the bottom is covered in carcasses or floating. I think a kill shot counts toward a limit.

I choose to not use live bait, because of the increaced likelyhood of gut hooking them, but they will do it on senkos too.

[elfish16]

you are stuck on what you can fish as far as bait goes at Casitas. No Crawdads or anything anymore due to the dang quagga non-sense. I know if it was legal there would be some BIG girls caught a lot more frequent! Casitas is playing into the lake of the 80's...jigs, small worms/reapers are catching big bass now days. Swimbaits are catching some but not as great as in years past!

Eric

[mark poulson]

There is already a meat fishing navy at Castaic every weekend. Every point has half a dozen shore anglers on it, transported there by one rental boat that makes repeat trips.
Talk about raping the lake.

[Philburt]

I THINK LIVEBAIT SHOULD BE BANNED.....BUT THATS MY OPINION...

[rip555]

Why should livebait be banned? Just because that is not the way that you catch bass? Most of us caught our first fish on some sort of live bait or cut bait.

Just because people are not catching bass the same way that you are catching it does not mean that it is not a legit way of catching a fish. I do agree that bigger bass should be let got to reproduce and live another day. However, let's be realistic. Some people do take home a fish or two for consumption. Then there are others who purely meat fish and keep everything they catch. To be honest, as long as it is within the confines of the law, I have no problem with it FOR THE MOST PART.

I just want to remind everybody that bass is an invasive species in California waters and so are stripers as are many other fish. Our true native fish are trout.

Bass fisherman as a whole hold themselves to a higher standard which is great. However, they also have a holier than thou attitude that can rub a lot of other fisherman the wrong way. I see it both ways as I enjoy fishing for black bass in a catch and release manner as well as fishing for stock trout, tuna, yellowtail, rockfish, etc. which I will keep for consumption. I just think we (bass fisherman) need to be a little bit more openminded. We are so confined to our little niche of fishing that we lose sight of why some people fish. Just because someone isn't throwing some sort of artificial to catch a fish doesn't make it any less enjoyable for that person. At the end of the day, fishing really fulfills a primal instinct. Bass fisherman more often than not don't happen to have the need to KILL fish to satisfy that primal instinct.

I'm off my soapbox for now.

Congrats on the tie for the record which should honestly be a new record. To me, whether or not he caught it on livebait or an artificial, it's still an astonishing feat.

[CN]

Live bait shouldnt be banned but it must be cought in the Lake your fishing from if I read the law correct. You cant buy bait a town away and bring it in to the Lake and use it. Sure it happens all over but correct me if I am wrong. Well here in the United States that is. So you Trophy hunters break that record and bring it back home to the USA

And yes try just fishing or better yet mix up your Bass fishing with the Salt it's a kick in the............!

[lowerider]

To each his own. Yes livebait can kill a fish but how many of us have gut hooked bass on a rubber worm or SENKO? It happens to me all the time. I try to cut the hook and get it out but you cant tell me all those bleeding bass we throw back survive.
I personally dont fish live bait but I dont really care if the next guy does as long as he throws the big ones back!

[mark poulson]

Castaic has a two fish over 18" limit for black bass, but non of the shore guys pay any attention to that. Their ice chest are filled with whatever they catch. And DFG is never there to check them on the lake or at the rental dock.

[STONEFREE]

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, DOTTY AT 25.1 STILL REMAINS THE BOSS BASS!!!!!!!! BIGGEST EVER,!!!!!!!!!SO FAR.

[Oldschool]

We can start another thread and kick around the fresh water live bait fishing for bass. The fact the Kurita bass was caught using techniques that are illegal in CA and legal almost everywhere else, shouldn't be and issue with the new world record.
Let Dottie R.I.P. The 25.1 lb weight wasn't a certified weight, her weight at the time she was caught last will never be known. Potentail world record, no doubt. The new world record today is 22 lbs 4 oz, a tie with the old record and that is wrong; the bass offically weighed 22 lbs 4.9 oz.
Tom

[492slayer]

For all those that are concerned about the tenths or hundredths of an ounce with this new record, consider this for a moment... in 1932 when Perry caught the record bass, he was fishing for dinner, not sport. The scales they used to weigh the fish at the time had no certification, in fact could have been off by ounces or pounds either way. I think it is the mystique of all the events of 1932 and the almost 80years of people trying to break the record that has people grumbling and groaning about live bait vs artificials. I give the guy in Japan his due credit. It might P.O. some people that it was in Japan, but is it any different for us lucky guys here in California that get to fish for 10-15lb+ largemouth vs guys back east who would kill for a 7lb fish? just something for others to think about.... Tight lines. By the way, when I do catch the next record bass, I'll be sure it is at least 26lbs so there is no confusion over it being a tie

[biteme]

Why should livebait be banned? Just because that is not the way that you catch bass? Most of us caught our first fish on some sort of live bait or cut bait.

Just because people are not catching bass the same way that you are catching it does not mean that it is not a legit way of catching a fish. I do agree that bigger bass should be let got to reproduce and live another day. However, let's be realistic. Some people do take home a fish or two for consumption. Then there are others who purely meat fish and keep everything they catch. To be honest, as long as it is within the confines of the law, I have no problem with it FOR THE MOST PART.

I just want to remind everybody that bass is an invasive species in California waters and so are stripers as are many other fish. Our true native fish are trout.

Bass fisherman as a whole hold themselves to a higher standard which is great. However, they also have a holier than thou attitude that can rub a lot of other fisherman the wrong way. I see it both ways as I enjoy fishing for black bass in a catch and release manner as well as fishing for stock trout, tuna, yellowtail, rockfish, etc. which I will keep for consumption. I just think we (bass fisherman) need to be a little bit more openminded. We are so confined to our little niche of fishing that we lose sight of why some people fish. Just because someone isn't throwing some sort of artificial to catch a fish doesn't make it any less enjoyable for that person. At the end of the day, fishing really fulfills a primal instinct. Bass fisherman more often than not don't happen to have the need to KILL fish to satisfy that primal instinct.

I'm off my soapbox for now.

Congrats on the tie for the record which should honestly be a new record. To me, whether or not he caught it on livebait or an artificial, it's still an astonishing feat.

If people want to fish with live bait its fine with me. With that said I dont see how you can feel like your earned anything. You didnt trick the fish into eating something artificial. You let the bait do the work for you. IMO live bait is what steroids is to baseball. You use something to enhance the performance. If someone can live with that then its fine with me! I just know I wouldnt feel right about it. I think the tie should have a asterisk next to it.

[Marty]

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[Chaozu]

I think there should be ONE set of rules for catching WORLD RECORD FISH. It's illegal to use live bait here but it's okay over there? We are not playing on the same playing field, you have an edge and therefore an advantage. Like biteme said, if you want to use live bait, fine, but I would have NO pride in catching that fish as the bait did the work for me. Same rules should apply all the way around the table, it's not fair for one region to have different rules than the other when we're all fighting for the same trophy! The record WILL come back to the states, and we will be prideful of that fish knowing the angler put in work and caught that fish on an artificial. Dottie will forever be known as the world record in my book until someone catches a 26 pounder, and I dont see that happening anytime soon.

[jamescaird]

I think there should be ONE set of rules for catching WORLD RECORD FISH. It's illegal to use live bait here but it's okay over there? We are not playing on the same playing field, you have an edge and therefore an advantage. Like biteme said, if you want to use live bait, fine, but I would have NO pride in catching that fish as the bait did the work for me. Same rules should apply all the way around the table, it's not fair for one region to have different rules than the other when we're all fighting for the same trophy! The record WILL come back to the states, and we will be prideful of that fish knowing the angler put in work and caught that fish on an artificial. Dottie will forever be known as the world record in my book until someone catches a 26 pounder, and I dont see that happening anytime soon.

Ummm....it is legal to use live bait here, and there is a single set of international rules (IGFA rules for world records...BASS is not the record keeping org). You must also obey local laws. Plenty of "big fish" out there, the point of the record is the RECORD... the *documentation* of a legal and legit catch, which this was by IGFA rules. Personally I'm glad we have a real legitimate record now vs. some mythical record likely held to much lower verification standards at the time. Live bait doesn't make it easy, maybe easier in the right hands, but not easy. Still have to know where she lives and fool her into biting something with a hook in it.

[Chaozu]

I meant live blue gill for bass. We cant use blue gill here but it's okay elsewhere. I too am glad we have a legit record, I dont think it will last long but you never know. Bring it home boys!

[896J]

Hey Slayer, I'd be happy if I could just catch a 15 pounder like that monster you caught The biggest fish I've caught recently is about 16 pounds shy of the world record

[Skunkedagain]

Thats one awesome fish. I'd soil my pants if that was on the end of my line. I think it's also great that it was caught outside the U.S. just means the sport is growing. As live bait goes, I don't' use it, I prefer the fun in artificial, however like others have said, a lot of our first fish were probably caught via live or cut bait. I think there is a stigma to live bait because so many of us associate it with "meat hunters" which again, to me as long as they follow the laws (probably the exception rather than the norm) I don't see the problem. Also, I would assume it takes some skill to land that size bass.

[WishinIwerFishin]

I meant live blue gill for bass. We cant use blue gill here but it's okay elsewhere. I too am glad we have a legit record, I dont think it will last long but you never know. Bring it home boys!

Live bluegill IS legal in SOME CA waters, you just need to be clear on the rules/regs. for the body of water you are fishing.

As far as the world record goes I think Manibu's bass should be the new world record. More weight is more weight flat out, but rules are rules and thats what we have to go by.

[fish_food]

For all those that are concerned about the tenths or hundredths of an ounce with this new record, consider this for a moment... in 1932 when Perry caught the record bass, he was fishing for dinner, not sport. The scales they used to weigh the fish at the time had no certification, in fact could have been off by ounces or pounds either way.

I've always read that it was weighed on certified scale(s) at his local post office. Postal scales, as well as those used for commercial purposes, have always had to be certified--even back in ye olde days.

[Brian]

The sad thing is, if this new fish wouldnt have swallowed the live bait he was fishing with when he caught it, it would have weighed under 22lbs.........

Shouldn't have counted...........period.........

[JustinD]

I beleive Perrys scales WERE certified if remember what I read in SOWBELLY correct.

[Oldschool]

Nearly everything about the Perry bass is hearsay with the exception of what Perry told in his story printed in B.A.S.S. in a Bassmaster article before he passed away in an airplane crash.
The scale was a Toledo 100 lb mail scale in 1 ounce increments, certifed to be within 2%. The Toledo scale was similar to a market scale and the graduations can be read differently depanding on the angle you look the scale face. Knowone will ever know for sure what the Perry bass weighed, it is what it is; 22 lbs 4 ounces.