Eradicate *Largemouth bass* from the Delta!!!

[jamescaird]

As many of you know the striped bass is currently a target of political action groups sponsored by the corrupt water barons of California. In a nutshell the striper fishing community is one of the most vocal opponents of increased exports of subsidized water out of the delta, so these groups are blatantly attacking this opposition group by attempting to have stripers de-listed as a sportfish based on it's non-native status. A side benefit of the effort is that it distracts the public from the real killer of the delta ecosystem - the water exports!!!

These same folks have stated in the past that once they are successful with establishing a striped bass eradication precedent, they will then go after largemouth bass.

The rhetoric up to this point over the last year or so, has been focused on stripers and other "non-native predators".

Well, in this letter from 3 Congressmen to the California Governor dated 3/18/10, the language goes to new heights, specifically calling out Largemouth Bass!!!!

http://www.calfishing.com/dc/user_files ... rs_ltr.pdf

[J.Rios]

AND THERE IT IS!!!!


Knew it wouldn't take long for this to happen.

Kalifornia politicians/crooks at their finest.

[Duckman]

I have a plan lets get rid of Dennis Cardoza

[PeteD]

Well, Then they might as well do away with the delta entirely.
The Delta is man Made- IT wouldnt exist and the fish in it wouldnt exist without it,

Just another way of destroying jobs and stealing $$$$$.
One of these days they will wake up.

[J.Rios]

BINGO!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE WINNER!!!!

[J.Rios]

Wait till they send fish and game crews to weigh- ins to collect the predator species. This will remove more fish from the system quicker as well as the breeding stock for the future.

Don't think they won't either. I remember a Redman tourney at Berryessa where fish and game collected the catch of the tournament for stocking of another lake. At least that was what they said.

[Marty]

You have a chance to do something now and until this November! Each of us needs to vote these @ss holes out of office. It does not matter what party they are in – vote against them. Tell your family members not to vote for them, tell your friends not to vote for them. Print out the letter and make copies of the letter and each time you go fishing pass the letter out to other fishermen. Everyone that is fishing a tournament needs to print out this letter and pass them out also. Post them at Bait shops, Post them at Merine, and Launch ramps. Post and tell!!!!

I know for sure that Jim Costa a (D) Congressman of the 20th Congressional District is seeking reelection to his third term in the U.S. House of Representatives. That is too fuccing long, he was first elected to Congress in 2004, and was endorsed by Dianne Feinstein.

I’m checking on the next two to see when they are up for reelection! But if we boot Costa out then we can send the letter that was signed by him and the other two – and say this is the reason!

As for George Radanovich a (R) Congressman of the 19th Congressional District is currently serving his eighth term in Congress! Has this fuccing @ss hole ever done any thing else – it is time for him to go!

Dennis Cardoza (D) Representative of the 18th District since 2003, he has been in politics since 1996 - it is time for him to go!

We have to fight this on the streets and don’t back down!

[Brian]

Hmmm I seem to remember someone (Me and fishsmith) trying to tell all you guys over a year ago that all this was coming. Nobody seemed to care back then.

[wicked28]

What does it matter anyway the Asians poach everything anyway, they don't care if it is a legal catch, at the rate there going all the fish will be gone in the near future. Those farmers should definitely be supporting their local asian markets and restraunts, they won't need the government to do anything.

If you see an asian on the bank throw rocks at them, or if you don't have any rocks you can always call DFG or the sheriff.

[J.Rios]

JUST WAIT!!!

If this legislation goes anywhere PETA, and the rest of the have a hearts will push bills to eradicate them in lakes.

Ex.- Black Bass have eaten---X Threatened specie here!!X--- therefore they are a stressor to the population and should be removed.

No more fish and no more fishing case closed!!!
Your favorite lake could be next. This is not just a delta issue!!


This is a quick and dirty example,but think of the possibilities this mess could open up if allowed to continue.

[Rod Martin]

*NM*

[dilbeck]

What does it matter anyway the Asians poach everything anyway, they don't care if it is a legal catch, at the rate there going all the fish will be gone in the near future. Those farmers should definitely be supporting their local asian markets and restraunts, they won't need the government to do anything.

If you see an asian on the bank throw rocks at them, or if you don't have any rocks you can always call DFG or the sheriff.

WOW, are you kidding me? I find this highly offensive and I'm not even Asian. I'll refrain from stooping to your level, but seriously, you need to check yourself.

BTW, sorry for the threadjack.

I, too, hope this is an April Fool's joke.

Michael

[barse41]

You have a chance to do something now and until this November! Each of us needs to vote these @ss holes out of office. It does not matter what party they are in – vote against them. Tell your family members not to vote for them, tell your friends not to vote for them. Print out the letter and make copies of the letter and each time you go fishing pass the letter out to other fishermen. Everyone that is fishing a tournament needs to print out this letter and pass them out also. Post them at Bait shops, Post them at Merine, and Launch ramps. Post and tell!!!!

I know for sure that Jim Costa a (D) Congressman of the 20th Congressional District is seeking reelection to his third term in the U.S. House of Representatives. That is too fuccing long, he was first elected to Congress in 2004, and was endorsed by Dianne Feinstein.

I’m checking on the next two to see when they are up for reelection! But if we boot Costa out then we can send the letter that was signed by him and the other two – and say this is the reason!

As for George Radanovich a (R) Congressman of the 19th Congressional District is currently serving his eighth term in Congress! Has this fuccing @ss hole ever done any thing else – it is time for him to go!

Dennis Cardoza (D) Representative of the 18th District since 2003, he has been in politics since 1996 - it is time for him to go!

We have to fight this on the streets and don’t back down!

who do we vote for then? everyone running is a crook.

what we need is some good ol boys to run. vote em into every office.

[jamescaird]

This IS NOT an April Fool's Joke. Don't you guys remember the AB1253 "eradicate the striper" bill from last year!? This stuff is really happening!!!!!

[SPIKE]

Well may be we won't have to buy a delta protection stamp or a stripper stamp? Oh my god what is I saying they will probably want more money to get rid of them. Or was it to save them? I can’t remember every time you start to read something it jumps the Fence! I think a hole in the dike might help. I wonder what would happen if all the bass and striper fisherman were to tow there boats say around the Capital say about 8am on a Monday morning if some one would get the hint. Iâ€

[Andrew Jackson]

Our governments (local, state and national) are "OUT OF CONTROL". "We the people" is slowly being muffled out. The crap is hitting the fan at s-l-o-w speed and in a blink of an eye we will be in line for bar-code tatoo's. Very scary stuff happening in this nation right now

[barse41]

Our governments (local, state and national) are "OUT OF CONTROL". "We the people" is slowly being muffled out. The crap is hitting the fan at s-l-o-w speed and in a blink of an eye we will be in line for bar-code tatoo's. Very scary stuff happening in this nation right now

+1

[skolnuts]

Our governments (local, state and national) are "OUT OF CONTROL". "We the people" is slowly being muffled out. The crap is hitting the fan at s-l-o-w speed and in a blink of an eye we will be in line for bar-code tatoo's. Very scary stuff happening in this nation right now

+2

[jamescaird]

Here is an additional link to the public record in case anyone is doubting the authenticity of this!

http://www.house.gov/list/press/ca18_ca ... 31810.html

[Oldschool]

Cal Trout people must be happy; they managed to plant non native steel head in SoCal and shut down the DFG trout planting and are helping by supporting the cleaning up of the delta of non native fish program. Bass anglers are not sportsmen, just a group of red necks, in the eyes of some recreational anglers.
We all better unit into one group soon or knowone will be able to sportfish anywhere in California; fresh or salt water.
The next election vote out every incumbent congress person, who doesn't support you interest.
Tom

[Dan Pollard]

That has got to be a April fools day joke. Look at the signatures.
Jim Costa in particular. Then Dennis Cardoza. Bet it is a April fools joke.

[mark poulson]

These politicians are just playing for some special interest's money.

Why don't we start an initiative to get rid of the invasive species that's caused the most problems in the Delta....... people!

Seriously, something like that would be like the first liar not having a chance.
Everyone would see how absurd this whole "remove all invasive species" thing is.
Every animal that's here, or it's ancestors, came from somewhere else once upon a time.
It's time to stop trying to roll back the clock, and to start dealing with what we have now in a realistic way, so we can all coexist.
The first step is to kill the new water diversion canal idiocy...save the Delta by removing more water???????

[Turkeyman]

This makes perfect sense in our politically correct world doesn't it?
Yes stipers and bass eat smolts and smelt, but they have been doing it for over 100 years and there wasn't any real problems with returning numbers of salmon and delta smelt numbers where good.
Now let's turn on these pumps that each one pumps around a million gallons of water and suck these little fish into the turbines by the thousands, grind them up and shoot them out the other side to feed the fish in the aquaduct and delt-mendota canal further downstream, but the bad predator fish in the delta are the one to blame.
Vote these knuckleheads out, every last one of them. United we stand divided we fall.

[Andrew Jackson]

Exactly. People in general, politicians mostly (and not all of them), just can't leave sheit alone. They have to somehow acknowledge and or substantiate their own miserable existince by ...No, I gotta stop. This aint bass fishing, it's politcal. I'm going back under the mushroom from which I came....

[StockOption]

Umm it's April 1st right?

[Andrew Jackson]

Yes it is. Very good point. That is such not a very good April Fools joke. I'm all bent out of shape with the conspiracy that is the Health Care package (bomb).

[sTony]

Umm it's April 1st right?

It's not an April Fool's joke.

sTony

[Phil Burgess]

A REALLY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO USED TO BE A BIG WIG IN THE DEPT OF FISH AND GAME UNTILL HE RETIRED A FEW YEARS AGO TOLD ME TO GET ALL THE HUNTING AND FISHING IN I CAN CAUSE IT PROLY WONT BE HERE IN TEN YEARS.............


WHAT A CRYIN SHAME..............


WHEN ARE THEY GONNA LET US HAVE A SEASON ON SEA LIONS....

THEY KILL THERE FAIR SHARE OF SALMON/STEELHEAD

[Johnny C]

Our governments (local, state and national) are "OUT OF CONTROL". "We the people" is slowly being muffled out. The crap is hitting the fan at s-l-o-w speed and in a blink of an eye we will be in line for bar-code tatoo's. Very scary stuff happening in this nation right now

+2...The picture is way bigger than you think. Just last night on the news I was the FBI was makeing malitia raids. Then I saw a protester being hosed down with a garden hose and since it was being done by an off duty policeman no charges were filed. The point is that all these MF's are crooked. These new politicians are like the Boys From Brazil. Think about it. Someone takes out Obama and now our leader is a guy dumber than Bush. This is no joke. The water grabbers are paying big money to the spin doctors. Hell watch FOX, they have thier on TV network. This is not a race thing. It is the same old story of the haves wanting more. They can give a flying %$#@ about smelt and salmon. The are the DFG's bosses!

[bigdaddys]

people check out restorethedelta.org. get on their maling list and you will get up to speed in no time. we should all unite like a union. a non profit org. to protect our waterways, or or kids will suffer. im 36 years old....and ive never voted. that will change this year.ITS TIME WE ALL TOOK A STAND .

[CN]

It sucks but how could they eradicate all the Largemouth from the Delta. Do you really think that meat fisherman are going to hurt that much. The Delta has more desirable fish for the black market I dont see Largemouth as being one.

Then again we get to go for Salmon Saturday cant wait. Moss Landing is going to be a ZOO glad our boat is in the water.

[swordfish]

Not going to happen...there has been alot of talk in Japan about the erradication of LMB that wont happen either ... I dont think

[offduty]

Wow

I certainly hope for the best for the future but it does look worse every day, especially if you search for the truth behind the lies on the internet. Everything is so political and always has an ulterior motive. The politicians who are overpaid are not working for us but rather big business. As stated earlier "they have they're own news agency", I have researched that and it has proven true to me. The they is an organization that wants the New World Order.

It is the have's wanting more and those are families like the Rockefeller,s, Morgan's Rothschild's and Warburg's. The president has these folks telling him what to do. Why would anyone want to be president of this country? So we say maybe a patriot that wants to fix things, BULL$HIT! it is to lick the wealthiest boots to make more $ and gain inside info to make more $.

So I do realize to most I am going to sound like a real wack job. The truth is everything works around money, A hand full have the majority of the money and what they say goes because they own people that can get things done. These control freaks want control of everything PERIOD.

As a case in point, lets take the Bush family back 3 generations. Grandpa Prescott Bush made a ton of money using concentration camp labor to sell goods to the Nazi's, an act of treason and got caught and skated. George senior runs the CIA and becomes our president and starts talking about the New World Order. George Jr becomes our president and the second term seems to have been stolen by his brother in Florida where he was governor. George Jr puts us in to a war on terror that can not be won. Dick Cheney leaves Halliburton, is given billions and is encouraged to run for vice president. Halliburton gets contracts given to them by the government to build military installations and logistical support facilities in the middle east and has made tons of money and still is. These contracts were not bid on but given away.

A document is written by a group of persons called Neocons, it is called Rebuilding America's Defenses and outlines what needs to be done for the Neoconservative agenda to work and is easily found with a google search. You might find this document interesting as the vast majority has gone according to plan and could not have happened without deceiving the American people, breaking the law and treason. It is the path to the NAU, North American Union and is a step to the New World Order.

In the late 60's JFK went on air and warned the American people of an enemy that works through covert means to push its agenda. He mentioned they had infiltrated all types of business and government office and said this secret society was the biggest threat to our countries sovereignty and they had been around for many years. You may want to go to Youtube and punch in "JFK WARNING" and it will come up.

JFK was shot for multiple reasons. He knew about the secret societies and wanted us back on the gold standard that would stabilize inflation and keep the controlling private bank, the "Federal Reserve" from manipulating our currency. He also shot down a plan called Operation Northwoods that you can google and find as well. These boys wanted to shoot some ordinance inside of Guantanamo and say the Cubans did it to start a war with Cuba. JFK would not let them carry out this FALSE FLAG OPERATION and that got him killed.

The big bankers make a lot of money off war and control our country. Remember that bailout for these guys, that inflation has not hit us yet but it will and it will be very significant. I want the fisheries to remain intact as they are now but their is always more to meets the eye and slight of hand at play. The Control Freak Clusturphuks that have the juice card want it all. They are not like you and I who are happy with peace, a good job and fishing for fun.

I do not know much about this letter to the governor and the true motivation. I know I do not like what they say they want done, I am always weary that there is a hidden agenda.

I wish the best for you all but I suggest you prepare for the worst just in case. I have thousands invested in emergency food, guns and ammo and hope I never need them but I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. I love this country and the enemy is not just overseas. There is also an enemy domestic and they chip away at or freedoms and push they're hidden agenda. There is no telling what the future will hold. OK , off my soap box and I'm out.

SEMPER PARATUS

Rich

[jamescaird]

That has got to be a April fools day joke. Look at the signatures.
Jim Costa in particular. Then Dennis Cardoza. Bet it is a April fools joke.

See the public record link I posted!! NOT AN APRIL FOOL'S JOKE!! Are you kidding? This has been going on with the striped bass for almost 2 years now!! This is very real!!!

[swordfish]

Can't blame the Smelt, just the misguided eco terrorists behind that nonsense Saturday Nite Live had a clip on the Bass O Matic 5000 in the 80s maybe the subversives bought them all or they planted the otters and sea lions to kill the non native species..

[J.Rios]

Swordfish and CN

Did you read what I wrote earlier??

What would it be like if F&G showed at all major tourneys and collected the catches of all contestants?? Your breeding populations would be decimated quickly. Don't think for a minute that they wouldn't try it.

With no threat of prosecution every stretch of waterway would be strewn with multi hook lines.Remember no limits,no size restrictions,no habitat enhancement of any kind for both stripers and Blacks.(More than likely would lead to an all out war on the vegetation in the delta)

[swordfish]

PETA is a bunch of Kooks they might have clout on some level to the misguided, example they have tried to ban fishing in National Parks even catch and release claiming it was cruel, to set president to ban sport fishing they are still weak, the real issue is so cal needs nor cal water for ag and the millions of swimming pools lawns ect. and our tax dollars as well. As a third generation Northern California resident I have said for years there should be a Northern California and Southern California line and two different states at about Monterey or there abouts and after all the bass is just a green fish and will survive.

[grozycki]

It would be a great shame to lose the striped bass and largemouth fisheries in the delta (and a major financial loss for Delta area communities based on fewer fisherman) - but I see an irony here that I have to mention: many of the same people pissed about the government wanting to remove striped and largemouth bass, are the same people who state that they want to kill/get rid of sea lions eating the stripers and largemouth. Doesn't make sense to me - the point shoudl be that removign an established population from an area isn't the approach to take. Instead, allow the waterway to return to its more natural state (read: fewer water demands, more expensive water for those that want/need it, and fewer people in Clifornia in general - and I am okay with that). Otherwise we will ALWAYS overmanage the system to fit the needs of the guys that have all the power (today farmers, Southern Cal, etc).

[mark poulson]

grozycki,
You're right. Water is the key.
Until actual experts, instead of lackies of special interest groups, devise a sustainable solution to watering SoCal, and the whole Southwest, without raping NoCal, it will always be a problem.

Offduty,
I think you're right on.
Money talks. Just look at what the Bush Court ruled, that corporations' money is "free speech".
Give me a break!
If money is free speech, and free speech is protected by the Constitution, then why do I have to pay taxes with my money?
Where are my Constitutional protections?
What a crock!

[Brian]

See the public record link I posted!! NOT AN APRIL FOOL'S JOKE!! Are you kidding? This has been going on with the striped bass for almost 2 years now!! This is very real!!!

James,

I posted that seceret letter from that bitch fienstien over a year ago, before the striper bill was even out. In it it said to get rid of all the LM and stripers, Nobody believed it then, what makes you think they will now? The letter is still here somewhere.

[Rod Martin]

*NM*

[Brian]

This is the link to the Feinstien letter from over a year ago if anyone missed it.....

http://westernbass.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ht=#328294

This is NOT an April Fools joke.........BT!

[sTony]

Did ya notice that Ol' Arnie has a part int he new Stallone movie. I would think it embarrassing to be out there 'acting' when the state is in the condition it's in. I mean, we're dead last... LAST, in education in the country. How can that possibly be? We've got THOUSANDS of employees on furloughs now. Unemployment in the state soars. Businesses are moving out in droves or shutting down.

And this guy is out making movies?

I also got bent on the comment from Boxer about there being a three year drought in the state. Is she for real? You look a the numbers and the winters and early springs haven't been all that bad as far as rainfall goes vs. the norm. It's all about how much we use beyond our current capacity. How much the state has been built up beyond its available resources. Now, instead of expanding on capacity, they're working overtime on a 'conveyance' to move the water that isn't there even faster to the waste points that have been built up. Too many new neighborhoods in deserts, too much farming on land that was never intended for that purpose. All so that developers can rape more from this state then ever before and they've got the government as a partner.

Turns my stomach.

And they've got it so that more folks care about what happens to Brad and Angelina and Jennifer then what's truly going down. A myopic, dis-interested and easily distracted populace. More folks care about who made the Dancing With The Stars finale or who got mocked on American Idol then about losing their access to our parks and lakes and coast.

They even found a way to get rid of free broadcast TV for the masses cause in this country and even more so on this state, you gotta pay and pay and pay and then they still might not let you play.

Sorry about the venting, I'm frustrated by it all.


sTony

[DanIsaac]

As many of you know the striped bass is currently a target of political action groups sponsored by the corrupt water barons of California. In a nutshell the striper fishing community is one of the most vocal opponents of increased exports of subsidized water out of the delta, so these groups are blatantly attacking this opposition group by attempting to have stripers de-listed as a sportfish based on it's non-native status. A side benefit of the effort is that it distracts the public from the real killer of the delta ecosystem - the water exports!!!

These same folks have stated in the past that once they are successful with establishing a striped bass eradication precedent, they will then go after largemouth bass.

The rhetoric up to this point over the last year or so, has been focused on stripers and other "non-native predators".

Well, in this letter from 3 Congressmen to the California Governor dated 3/18/10, the language goes to new heights, specifically calling out Largemouth Bass!!!!

http://www.calfishing.com/dc/user_files ... rs_ltr.pdf

Those 3 undersigned show go directly to the top off the voter's election hit list, and it should be an organized effort. Your right though Tony, pretty pathetic.

dan

[bass hmoob yaj]

What does it matter anyway the Asians poach everything anyway, they don't care if it is a legal catch, at the rate there going all the fish will be gone in the near future. Those farmers should definitely be supporting their local asian markets and restraunts, they won't need the government to do anything.

If you see an asian on the bank throw rocks at them, or if you don't have any rocks you can always call DFG or the sheriff.

LOL, way to go you racist prick. Idiots like you really do like to point fingers and blame it on the asians, when it's actually the people you/we voted into Congress.

I sure do hope you only get bass smaller than dinks next time your out doing a tournament. Even better...I hope a seal steals all your catch.

[CN]

Swordfish and CN

Did you read what I wrote earlier??

What would it be like if F&G showed at all major tourneys and collected the catches of all contestants?? Your breeding populations would be decimated quickly. Don't think for a minute that they wouldn't try it.

With no threat of prosecution every stretch of waterway would be strewn with multi hook lines.Remember no limits,no size restrictions,no habitat enhancement of any kind for both stripers and Blacks.(More than likely would lead to an all out war on the vegetation in the delta)

l understand your frustration believe me. I've been Hunting and Fishing California since I was about 10 and that was in 1965 like the first word's in my post "It sucks"

Good luck

[Cooch]

This indeed is real people! And YES Brian, we git it now, feel better?
It's way past time we git off our arses and start shipping out the fax letters I posted in the announcements at the top of the page. We also need to show up in force, and I mean breath taking numbers of anglers on April 13th in Sacto for that metting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Otherwise, our spouting here means NOTHING!