Mexican pirates on Texas lake...

DL · Post by DL » Fri May 28, 2010 11:51 am

http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/me ... e/19495275

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri May 28, 2010 12:15 pm

Simple stay off there water you wont have a problem. Hes just one lucky redneck is all im sure hell be stupid enough to go try it again.
HEY WATCH THIS

Turkeyman · Post by **Turkeyman** » Fri May 28, 2010 1:01 pm

I thought all them Texans carried guns. A little longrange target practice seems to be in order.

toddmc · Post by **toddmc** » Fri May 28, 2010 2:05 pm

This sounds almost as scary as a DVL boat inspection! Texans aren't going to take this nonsense. I sure some of the Bubbas will have cannons mounted next to their trolling motors at the next tournament. This will give them another excuse to pass an Arizona immigration law.

j10b · Post by **j10b** » Sat May 29, 2010 3:27 am

mmarkinma55 wrote:Simple stay off there water you wont have a problem. Hes just one lucky redneck is all im sure hell be stupid enough to go try it again.
HEY WATCH THIS

So we need to stay out of the GREAT Mexico but they can chase our CITIZENs across our waters with guns????

Bill K · Post by **Bill K** » Sat May 29, 2010 5:23 am

In years past, I enjoyed some travels into various parts of Mexico, but the last few years, No.
If all of us stopped spending money in Mexico, no matter where, it might just start causing them to do something, to straighten out their country.
As for the Texas lake, make damn sure you are on the U.S. side and if they cross into your side and pull something, then protect yourself. ( I know I will get the comment back "Why would anyone carry" like occured on another post, back a few weeks, re. the discussion of open carry, etc.
Along the same thought of travel. I used to travel all over the U.S. and western Europe and some other countries, but anymore it is only the U.S. and Canada.
Other than that, they can go broke, as far as my travel dollar in the others. BIll K

davet. · Post by **davet.** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:45 am

Let's see:
Rods-check
baits-check
gas/oil-check
AK47-check
I'd have no problem strapping my.......I mean an AK47 to my deck ("say hello to my little friend").
And to really reach out and touch our hispanic friends, the ole 7mm Mag.
And aint this Texas? Are'nt preschoolers allowed to possess a concealed weapons permit?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:47 am

watch the video again the redneck went into mexican waters to fish which means in redneck terms as trespassing you cross the border into there country they will take what they want and just like the us dept of fish and game said and the boarder patrol said they have too stop at the boarder edge and can do nothing . How much more simple can it be to stay out of there territory but rednecks never clam to be that smart.

davet. · Post by **davet.** » Sat May 29, 2010 8:32 am

Actually, you don't even have to pass the border. I've talked to people that have been approached and managed to just speed away, no matter where you are.
It's just that if you get assaulted on the mexican side, our cops have no jurisdiction, youre on your own. And there aint no white line that crosses the lake. So in some cases, you really can't tell what side your on.
The smart thing would be not to fish any tight coves where you could get trapped, always keep a way out and watch over your shoulder.
And dont' forget "your little friend".

davet. · Post by **davet.** » Sat May 29, 2010 8:44 am

toddmc wrote:This sounds almost as scary as a DVL boat inspection! Texans aren't going to take this nonsense. I sure some of the Bubbas will have cannons mounted next to their trolling motors at the next tournament. This will give them another excuse to pass an Arizona immigration law.

Oh yeah, that BAD Arizona immigration law. It's so BAD to keep illegal people out of the country.
I don't mind immigration. All of us but native Americans are immigrants or decendents of immigrants. Just do it legally.
What's so hard about obeying the law?

Bill K · Post by **Bill K** » Sat May 29, 2010 10:05 am

That is what is so rediculous, Az is trying to enforce and want the Fed's to enforce Illegal immigration, not legal immigration.
What is wrong with that, that is why we have laws. If you listen to major news and the politicians the ignore the illegal part and keep talking immigration reform. What for, it has worked for years, with untold numbers becoming legal citizens.
Seems congress, the pres and others want us to forget laws and just let people do whatever they want. Even put in for Drivers lic, SS and all the benefits legal workers support.
And they are supposed to be educated people, gov that is.. Ha
Bill K

sker13 · Post by **sker13** » Sat May 29, 2010 10:16 am

mmarkinma55 wrote:watch the video again the redneck went into mexican waters to fish which means in redneck terms as trespassing you cross the border into there country they will take what they want and just like the us dept of fish and game said and the boarder patrol said they have too stop at the boarder edge and can do nothing . How much more simple can it be to stay out of there territory but rednecks never clam to be that smart.

That kind of lame *** sterotyping makes you sound really dumb Mark. I grew up in South Texas. The boys down there can take care of themselves. Yes I would be carrying a .223 at the very least and would not let another boat get within a quarter mile of me. I have been deep into Mex. many times on hunting and fishing trips. Times are getting worse for sure but there are "Rednecks" fishing the Mex. side of the boarder everyday and you rarely hear about this stuff happening.

Tarpon120 · Post by **Tarpon120** » Sat May 29, 2010 12:44 pm

Four Mexican pirates + anglers packing heat = Quatro Sink-o (orale vato!)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat May 29, 2010 12:46 pm

well sker13 that idiot was clearly in mexican waters when he was fishing and those guys in that other boat were there for one thing that is to rob him so if bass fisherman need too go catch bigger fish on that side of the lake then they get what they deserve you want to look over your shoulder when your in there water go ahead you know as well as i do your just asking for trouble with the drug gang that are on that lake go ahead and shot one of them and see how fast they get to you trust me there killers and they dont fear anybody rednecks or texans or who ever they are. Everybody in that story was clearly in mexican water when they we assaulted. AGAIN COMMON SINCE IS ALL THATS NEEDED.

mcsanders · Post by **mcsanders** » Sat May 29, 2010 1:26 pm

I wonder if that idiot redneck has common sense?

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Sat May 29, 2010 1:50 pm

COMMON SINCE? Common Since tells us this veto is a Warning that more is to come as has happen along the entire board with Mexico. Do you really think an imaginary line is going to stop tugs that donâ€™t even follow the laws of their own country as in â€œit is against the law to even have guns in Mexicoâ€

S. Bailey · Post by **S. Bailey** » Sat May 29, 2010 1:55 pm

ok so forgive me on my ignorance of mexican law, but im pretty sure the gun laws in mexico are very harsh. So whats gonna happen when all these texas boys start bringing a gun onboard and venturing into mexican waters to fish and the mexican police boats try to board you. Arent we in violation and risk being detained in a mex jail ???? my question is... when I run from a mex police boat back into U.S. waters can that mex police boat still chase me ?? or is it like U.S. and they have no jurisdiction over the boarder. thanks for help .

toddmc · Post by **toddmc** » Sat May 29, 2010 2:41 pm

davet. wrote:
toddmc wrote:This sounds almost as scary as a DVL boat inspection! Texans aren't going to take this nonsense. I sure some of the Bubbas will have cannons mounted next to their trolling motors at the next tournament. This will give them another excuse to pass an Arizona immigration law.
Oh yeah, that BAD Arizona immigration law. It's so BAD to keep illegal people out of the country.
I don't mind immigration. All of us but native Americans are immigrants or decendents of immigrants. Just do it legally.
What's so hard about obeying the law?

I never said it was a bad law. I agree with you. Every state has laws they can use to fix the problems of illegal immigration. My only point was that this event will give Texas the exuse needed to pass an Arizona type immigration law. The liberal national media will make the gun carrying bass fisherman look like the villian.

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Sat May 29, 2010 2:57 pm

S. Bailey wrote:ok so forgive me on my ignorance of mexican law, but im pretty sure the gun laws in mexico are very harsh. So whats gonna happen when all these texas boys start bringing a gun onboard and venturing into mexican waters to fish and the mexican police boats try to board you. Arent we in violation and risk being detained in a mex jail ???? my question is... when I run from a mex police boat back into U.S. waters can that mex police boat still chase me ?? or is it like U.S. and they have no jurisdiction over the boarder. thanks for help .

Iâ€™m not advocating we should be shooting these tugs (no matter how I want too) or even carrying guns into Mexico. I am advocating better control of our own boards to include our waters. The situation has become out of control which the video is just point out! And the best we can do is argue about illegal vs non-document, putting 1,500 troops on the board without bullets or the authored to stop and detain.

As for their police crossing our boards they are held by the same treated as our police are but as proven in AZ. Mexico's police as well as their military have come across out boards because they donâ€™t respect us or our boards. This needs to stop and as long as we have this White House it will not.

Peter Lloyd · Post by **Peter Lloyd** » Sat May 29, 2010 3:04 pm

davet. wrote:Actually, you don't even have to pass the border. I've talked to people that have been approached and managed to just speed away, no matter where you are.
It's just that if you get assaulted on the mexican side, our cops have no jurisdiction, youre on your own. And there aint no white line that crosses the lake. So in some cases, you really can't tell what side your on.
The smart thing would be not to fish any tight coves where you could get trapped, always keep a way out and watch over your shoulder.
And dont' forget "your little friend".

The border is clear on Falcon. The border basically goes down the middle of the lake. Plus, there are big poles in the middle to mark the border. However, I don't know how safe I would feel on the U.S. side of that lake. Either way, I don't think it's worth it.

Ringer · Post by **Ringer** » Sat May 29, 2010 4:00 pm

They also robbed a bass boat in American waters a few weeks ago so I wonder why our government doesn't put armed coast guard boats on our side to make sure our people are safe in their own country?

ken burk · Post by **ken burk** » Sat May 29, 2010 4:01 pm

Redneck?

C.GANN · Post by **C.GANN** » Sat May 29, 2010 4:11 pm

CCW...just in case

jazzwannabe · Post by **jazzwannabe** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:00 pm

Only two things about this surprise me: That it it's only now starting to happen, and that the victims' boats weren't stolen as well.

FinesseKid · Post by **FinesseKid** » Sat May 29, 2010 7:06 pm

How DARE they:

HERES SOMETHING FOR ALL MEXICAN PIRATES ON FALCON:

ANY ARMED MEXICAN WHO APPROACHED ME AND THREATENED ME WOULD BE FILLED WITH LEAD SO FAST THAT THEY WOULD NOT REMEMBER THE LAST TORTA THEY ATE BEFORE THEY WERE FACE DOWN IN THE WATER BLEEDING OUT OF THEIR ANUS.

JUST FOR GOOD MEASURE I WOULD CUT THEIR HEADS OFF AND TOSS THEM ON THE MEXICAN SIDE OF THE BORDER AS A WARNING TO FUTURE MEXICAN CRIMINALS.

I can guarantee you Texans are scoping up and laughing.

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Sun May 30, 2010 4:17 am

jazzwannabe wrote:Only two things about this surprise me: That it it's only now starting to happen, and that the victims' boats weren't stolen as well.

If people think they are a match for multiple pirates armed with "machine guns" who are part of a drug cartel, and rob for a living, they're nuts. There's a big difference between packing and shooting someone, and those pirates don't have a problem with the second part.

Where's the Coast Guard in all of this?

ken burk · Post by **ken burk** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:08 am

RAMBO!

FinesseKid · Post by **FinesseKid** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:45 am

When they start shooting nobody will be able to get the motor started and escape anyway, so you might as well pull out your .50 cal desert eagle and rid the world of a few scum if you are gonna go out.

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Sun May 30, 2010 7:01 am

ken burk wrote:RAMBO!

Exactly! Just like up at Pyramid.

I still remember making the mistake of fishing Pyramid on Memorial Day five years ago.
At launch, there were only four boats in line, but, when I got off at noon, it was wall to wall drunks, partying half naked on ski boats.
And both parking lots were full!
It took me 45 minutes to get my trailer to the ramp, and I had to move a ski boat out of the way to put my boat on the trailer.
And then the idiots in line waiting to launch wouldn't move enough to let me, and a whole line of boats, get through to leave.
Finally, the guy behind me, an off duty cop, walked around me and the two boats in front of me, pulled out his badge, and told the kid who wouldn't move that either he let us out, or he would be arrested.
It was mayhem, and the Sherrifs were hiding in their little headquarters at the top of the ramp, scared to come out and do their job.
Two years later a drunk boater pulled his drunk tuber into another boat, and killed him.
It was only a matter of time.
And it's still the same to this day.
End of Rant!

DL · Post by DL » Sun May 30, 2010 8:14 am

ken burk wrote:RAMBO!

The drew first blood...they drew first blood

norththird · Post by **norththird** » Sun May 30, 2010 10:05 am

These Mexican pirates are robbing unarmed fishermen. As it is now,
there is no deterrent to stop them (like robbing old ladies). They might be bandits, but they are smart enough to go after easy prey, they
don't want to go after people who are armed and will defend themselves. The best defense is one bada$$ offense.

bss_hunter · Post by **bss_hunter** » Sun May 30, 2010 5:24 pm

I wonder what Icanneli would do if he was approached by mexican pirates during a bassmasters, I'd love to see what that nut would do lol.

offduty · Post by **offduty** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:31 pm

I don't think it would be that hard to mount a 50 cal machine gun on the front seat post.

lowerider · Post by **lowerider** » Sun May 30, 2010 8:08 pm

offduty wrote:I don't think it would be that hard to mount a 50 cal machine gun on the front seat post.

He would go into that little windmill break dancing move he does when he catches a fish and decapitate the whole crew!!!!! lol

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun May 30, 2010 8:42 pm

The american law enforement knows there out gunned and the coast guard wont do anything either you guys might as well give it up if your that brave go for it they would like nothing better than too take everything you got sure you might take out two or three of them but you can bet you'll wont come back alive.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun May 30, 2010 8:45 pm

And too think it for a a few bass VERY LAME

AJC · Post by **AJC** » Sun May 30, 2010 10:31 pm

So I'm guessing you were a push over back in the school days right? Prime target for kids wanting to take your lunch money and not fighting back? Are you saying that people that live on or guide on that lake should just give up and find somewhere else to fish? If the goverment won't protect us, then isn't that what the 2nd amendment is for? I'm not sayin people should go lookin for these guys in mexican waters but I'd be damned if I let s**t like this keep me from fishin U.S waters. Hell yes people should be prepared to protect themselves. Stay in our water but be prepared for the worse. It ain't about little green fish, it's about our soverinity, they wanna come into our waters and try s**t like this, then they can expect a fight. They might get away with it on unsuspecting anglers, but the word is out and those Texans aren't going to sit back and give up their territory. Remember the alamo?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun May 30, 2010 11:08 pm

the mexican drug cartel are bad very bad yes the us law enforcement needs to do something and do it fast but they cant there hands are tied and the coast guard wont help so you get who too take care of the problem. Let see whats going to be done by dfg and the boarder patrol do in the next few months on fixing this problem.

AJC · Post by **AJC** » Sun May 30, 2010 11:46 pm

I'm just not sure it's going to take that. I think before the govt (regardless of agency) gets it's head out of its a**, the people will solve the problem. Thats what America was founded on and thats what has been missing lately. People are so used to relying on the govt that they have forgotten that the people are what make this country great. We can protect ourselves, like it was said before, this wouldn't happen if they thought there would be resitance. These guys think its easy pickens and will look elsewhere for their loot once a resitance is put up. This is all a result of the lawlessness of mexico, they are used to no consenceses. Once it is clear that they may not get away scott free, they will look elsewhere for there loot.

sro114 · Post by **sro114** » Mon May 31, 2010 10:41 am

The real point is that the mexican authorities should be doing something about it but apparently are out gunned or payed off(or both). If mexican boaters were getting robbed at gunpoint on our side it would become an international human rights story.

bigbass111 · Post by **bigbass111** » Mon May 31, 2010 11:21 am

Just spoke with a buddy of mine that stays down there 6mos out of the year. He said alot of the locals are now carring automatic weapons themselves. My friend has his Kel-tek 223. dialed in and he is ready to defend himself. In most cases he says the guys only have one rifle and a few hand guns. The boats they are using are powered with small outboards. Getting to a safe distance is not hard as long as you pay attention to your surroundings.

He is a retired gunny and just hopes they don't come near him..

sker13 · Post by **sker13** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:35 am

That's what I am talking about...Once they realize that bass anglers aren't easy pickins and get shot at a few times the problem will go away. They may be tough but they aren't stupid. Risk vs. reward.

SPIKE · Post by **SPIKE** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:42 pm

You heard of the 50 yard rule , (shoot em all let god sort em out)

Rodney · Post by **Rodney** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:43 pm

Is there a slot limit. Can you cull them

NoCompetition · Post by **NoCompetition** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:51 am

Hey, for anyone serious enough to go out on Falcon Lake and fish either close to the border or in Mexican waters and pack armorment, this is what I would tell you. Save the 223 for the CQC, and pack a 308 long rifle like a SOCOM, FAL, H&K. When they feel the 168 grain Corbon's hitting their dingy at 600 yards they will get the point. Keep the 223 when you board their dingy to see what damage you did

davet. · Post by **davet.** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:24 am

Rodney wrote:Is there a slot limit. Can you cull them

I hear they're an invasive species and there's no limit.

Rodney · Post by **Rodney** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:55 pm

hold a new tournament call it the lake falcon mexican shoot out with no limit.

boat
fishing gear
sun screen
beer
winchester 300 mag
body bags

fishinman · Post by **fishinman** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:12 am

A small battery powered torpedo armed with a little packet of nitro or chemical explosive should do the job. Make it look like a large topwater launched with your bait caster at the approaching bandits. they won't Know what hit them and you'll have some catfish bait!

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:15 pm

NoCompetition wrote:Hey, for anyone serious enough to go out on Falcon Lake and fish either close to the border or in Mexican waters and pack armorment, this is what I would tell you. Save the 223 for the CQC, and pack a 308 long rifle like a SOCOM, FAL, H&K. When they feel the 168 grain Corbon's hitting their dingy at 600 yards they will get the point. Keep the 223 when you board their dingy to see what damage you did

I would have to disagree. Too much recoil to put a lot of rounds on target accurately in a short time. Accuracy by volume, then board with a shotgun and a .45.

The boys in Texas were talking about this when I was there last week. I know they are not going to stand for it. I wouldn't be surprised if we here about an ambush on those scumbags. Or Texas will add watercraft to the castle law. Then it will all be legal.

Andy Lippert · Post by **Andy Lippert** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:41 pm

NoCompetition wrote:Hey, for anyone serious enough to go out on Falcon Lake and fish either close to the border or in Mexican waters and pack armorment, this is what I would tell you. Save the 223 for the CQC, and pack a 308 long rifle like a SOCOM, FAL, H&K. When they feel the 168 grain Corbon's hitting their dingy at 600 yards they will get the point. Keep the 223 when you board their dingy to see what damage you did

Sounds like someone has spent a little too much time playing couch combat.

I'll also take an M4 and still reach out and touch somebody within 500 yards. It might take a couple shots to walk myself onto the target (given the fact that I'd be bobbing up and down in the water) but that would just add to the excitement.

Do you think they'd prosecute in Texas if you killed a boat load of 'em that was displaying "hostile intent"? hmmmm....

Andy

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