US Open Cheater?

JamesH · Post by **JamesH** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:33 pm

The blog just posted that they caught a Southern California Angler with lead weights in the belly of their fish..... no mention of name....

James

JKitz · Post by **JKitz** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:13 pm

JamesH wrote:The blog just posted that they caught a Southern California Angler with lead weights in the belly of their fish..... no mention of name....

James

I cant wait to find out who it is. What a P.O.S.

Come on. Do you really have to stoop to cheating to win a fishing tournament.

I think there should be a precedence of banning a person for life from all tournaments. Then they can learn how to cheat at bowling or softball...

What a punk!!

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:15 pm

If the word I got is true, everyone is in for a real shock. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out...

Roger

TEAMDEADMONEY · Post by **TEAMDEADMONEY** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:18 pm

I too am interested to find out... There are a few guys out there that Ive never trusted....I guess we will just have to wait and see...

Pete

JKitz · Post by **JKitz** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:22 pm

tunaman wrote:If the word I got is true, everyone is in for a real shock. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out...

Roger

Come on man.. Spill the beans...

Inquiring minds want to know..

I know, I know. You dont want to say anything if its not true. But heck, another So Cal person(s) caught cheating. That's giving a crappy fisherman like me a bad name...

Sinjin Kim · Post by **Sinjin Kim** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:23 pm

I'll get the rope, who has a big enough tree in their front yard?

azbass1 · Post by **azbass1** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:25 pm

Well you can certainly narrow the list down by looking at the results for day 2 and the guys with dead fish penalties from So Cal... The thing that makes it suck even worse is that I assume they can't allow the weights for each day's partner either so that mean 3 other guys get screwed too

JKitz · Post by **JKitz** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:28 pm

Sinjin Kim wrote:I'll get the rope, who has a big enough tree in their front yard?

I say we "stone" them with lead weights

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:28 pm

Been confirmed now. The angler was Mike Hart.

sTony

flipit · Post by **flipit** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:28 pm

JKitz wrote:
tunaman wrote:If the word I got is true, everyone is in for a real shock. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out...

Roger
Come on man.. Spill the beans...

Inquiring minds want to know..

I know, I know. You dont want to say anything if its not true. But heck, another So Cal person(s) caught cheating. That's giving a crappy fisherman like me a bad name...

Im wanting to know also. I hate the tease part of this not telling who it is.

whazup · Post by **whazup** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:30 pm

Maybe a stupid question but, will a bass "pass" a weight? If a "loaded" bass is weighed and released, (undetected) wouldn't it be possible for the next angler to catch the same fish and not know it was loaded? Not saying that happened here because this guy apparently tried it two different days. Just a hypothetical....

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:34 pm

sTony wrote:Been confirmed now. The angler was Mike Hart.

sTony

I don't believe it.

JKitz · Post by **JKitz** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:36 pm

sTony wrote:Been confirmed now. The angler was Mike Hart.

sTony

If that's true.. Then that makes the Castaic Tournaments WFO!!

WOW!!!

Seriously!!

Makes you wonder about all that cash Mike has Won at Castaic..

I will wait for the Official Offical word before I start to seriously blast them

Rob Dickson · Post by **Rob Dickson** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:39 pm

and pyramid

mattwarner · Post by **mattwarner** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:44 pm

didnt he win the tri states teams last year for won bass on lake mead....if its the same guy, they were questioning his fish last year also. and then not to mention the co angler not reporting it to the officials!! wow!!!!

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:48 pm

Could be one of bassfishings saddest days if that is true. Shocked is an understatement. Rick G.

TXRIGGED · Post by **TXRIGGED** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:50 pm

He could've shoved the weights in while the co-angler was up getting his truck/trailer. But seriously, how many weights was he jammin' in 'em? If it's true, and he did it with the co-angler present, I hope the co-angler fesses up and there leaves no room for speculation, just fact.

TEAMDEADMONEY · Post by **TEAMDEADMONEY** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:50 pm

Oh My Effing God... I cant believe it and dont want to beleive it.

Ive ALWAYS held Mike Hart in high regard...I will wait to pass judgement until all the facts come out...
Im trouble by this because Ive always looked up to him...

Say it aint so Mike..

Pete

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:51 pm

Cheating is a big problem in Bass tournaments right now. Makes me sick. If this is true I hope Won Bass presses charges to the fullest extent of the law. Maybe that will send a message to the others.

buddy brown · Post by **buddy brown** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:52 pm

sTony wrote:Been confirmed now. The angler was Mike Hart.

sTony

I won't believe this until it is proven that he did it and not his AAA.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:55 pm

buddy brown wrote:
sTony wrote:Been confirmed now. The angler was Mike Hart.

sTony
I won't believe this until it is proven that he did it and not his AAA.

That's what I was thinking but he did fish with two separate AAA's on day two and three.

If it is true and proven, then it is a very sad day for our sport.

sTony

TXRIGGED · Post by **TXRIGGED** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:56 pm

I was just gonna ask about legal ramifications. Just add up the money he won in WON Bass So-Cal Region events this year. That money is probably already spent, but I wonder if WON Bass could go after that money.

I'd say if he has to repay that amount, it gets evenly distributed amongst the anglers by percentage of participation and rank for each of the tournaments.

What a mess.

Robert F · Post by **Robert F** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:56 pm

buddy brown wrote:
sTony wrote:Been confirmed now. The angler was Mike Hart.

sTony
I won't believe this until it is proven that he did it and not his AAA.

....and this is exactly why WON better press charges. I have never understood cheating. What is the point? Do you need money that bad?

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:56 pm

buddy brown wrote:I won't believe this until it is proven that he did it and not his AAA.

Couldnt' have been the AAA, as they switch up every day.

I'm still hoping there is some explanation, as I can't believe it myself... sounds like solid evidence and strong confirmation but I'll wait to hear it from official channels before I truly believe it.

Roger

Bill Cook · Post by **Bill Cook** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:58 pm

IF this is true, and I say IF, it will be one of the saddest days in California bass fishing. I, too have always held Mike in the highest regard and will continue to do so until it is proven that he was to blame.

Damn

biteme · Post by **biteme** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:00 pm

Robert F wrote:
buddy brown wrote:
sTony wrote:Been confirmed now. The angler was Mike Hart.

sTony
I won't believe this until it is proven that he did it and not his AAA.
....and this is exactly why WON better press charges. I have never understood cheating. What is the point? Do you need money that bad?

EGO, man to do it two days in a row is liking spitting in the face of other anglers.

buddy brown · Post by **buddy brown** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:02 pm

yep I agree Tony. Another scenario is that someone else loaded these fish days or weeks ahead of time in a given area and he caught these fish that were preloaded on day one and two cause he was fishing the same water. I still doubt he did this until he is proven guilty. dude does not need to do chit like that.

Gerryjig · Post by **Gerryjig** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:03 pm

WOW......

DanIsaac · Post by **DanIsaac** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:04 pm

Whomever it is, it doesnt sound like blaming his AAA is an option. It happened on two different days with two different AAA's.

If this is true, the individual does need to be prosecuted, but that would depend on Nevada State law.

Dan

Bill Cook · Post by **Bill Cook** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:07 pm

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:07 pm

He won 7 out of 8 Won Bass southern tournaments this year! Wow. He is good

leachman90 · Post by **leachman90** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:09 pm

If true it is total BS for his AAA.I mean you have 2,3,4 or more days of pre fish in ungodly hot weather. Then to go out and fish 3 more days of what might be some of the toughest tournament conditions because of the heat to have one of your days weight taken away. I know I was out there and it was hard just o keep fishing at times. Very sad(if true)GB..Jim

1fishman · Post by **1fishman** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:10 pm

"WOW" Mike Hart" Of So Cal~ Cheating in the US OPEN" Confirmed by many, Weights in the dead fish.... VERN HAS THE WEIGHTS IN HAND...

gixxer464 · Post by **gixxer464** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:11 pm

Game Over.

JeffJ · Post by **JeffJ** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:12 pm

Wow I can't believe it!

rangerz20 · Post by **rangerz20** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:15 pm

leachman90 · Post by **leachman90** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:15 pm

TXRIGGED wrote:I was just gonna ask about legal ramifications. Just add up the money he won in WON Bass So-Cal Region events this year. That money is probably already spent, but I wonder if WON Bass could go after that money.

I'd say if he has to repay that amount, it gets evenly distributed amongst the anglers by percentage of participation and rank for each of the tournaments.

What a mess.

Just like in the Rose case in Texas, don't think there is anything they can do about past tournaments. No proof any thing was going on.

Sinjin Kim · Post by **Sinjin Kim** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:16 pm

I am in a bit of a rush but I just got a call and was asked to write this.

The co-angler was a pro from S. Korea. From the story that I've gathered, the co-angler was asked to grab the trolling motor while the boater was doing something in the back (culling I am expecting). That is all that the co-angler knows.

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:16 pm

Alright, just to lighten everyone up here:

Question: Why was there so much fish mortality at this year's US Open?
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Lead poisoning!

Not a laughing matter, but just trying to provide a little levity here! Sorry guys and gals!

Roger

whazup · Post by **whazup** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:18 pm

TXRIGGED wrote:I was just gonna ask about legal ramifications. Just add up the money he won in WON Bass So-Cal Region events this year. That money is probably already spent, but I wonder if WON Bass could go after that money.

I'd say if he has to repay that amount, it gets evenly distributed amongst the anglers by percentage of participation and rank for each of the tournaments.

What a mess.

It also becomes a legal matter. In the Rose case in Texas, he was charged with a felony for trying to "steal" a $55,000.00 boat. (top prize) ( I think Rose plea-bargained)

Rob Dickson · Post by **Rob Dickson** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:18 pm

tunaman wrote:Alright, just to lighten everyone up here:

Question: Why was there so much fish mortality at this year's US Open?
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Lead poisoning!

Not a laughing matter, but just trying to provide a little levity here! Sorry guys and gals

Roger

That's just wrong

DanIsaac · Post by **DanIsaac** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:19 pm

U R BAD Mr. Tuna!

Andy Lippert · Post by **Andy Lippert** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:21 pm

buddy brown wrote:yep I agree Tony. Another scenario is that someone else loaded these fish days or weeks ahead of time in a given area and he caught these fish that were preloaded on day one and two cause he was fishing the same water. I still doubt he did this until he is proven guilty. dude does not need to do chit like that.

LMAO, So he just so happened to bring a few of the SAME FISH that were planted in the days prior BY SOMEONE ELSE in a certain area. Well there's a theory.

We need to hold this c*ck smoker accountable if this is proven as true. Atleast we're not censored from saying his name on this forum, like we are with a few others.

Burn him at the stake, or run him outa town if he's guilty!

Agro · Post by **Agro** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:25 pm

Why would a guy with so much going for him do something like this? He is the top bread winner a Castaic and Pyramid constantly.

This is insane!

stan7 · Post by **stan7** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:26 pm

I fished a draw tourney with him and won money.

Say it ain't so, Mike!

I don't believe it.

TXRIGGED · Post by **TXRIGGED** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:29 pm

Even if they don't have solid evidence to prove him guilty, his reputation still will be severely tarnished. Maybe he had so much going for him due to a cheap price on lead weights.

doug77 · Post by **doug77** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:30 pm

Be real.Are you saying somebody loaded weights(which kills fish)in fish and let them go and figured they would recatch them a week later?Its my understanding that the fish were dead day 2 at weighin.Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.
Anybody that cheats like this should be shot.
They cheated their friends,they showed total lack of respect for the fish(killed them),and tried to steal other peoples(who were honestly fishing)thunder .

kb · Post by kb » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:30 pm

44 posts about this scumbag and not one mention of who won the U.S. Open.........Congrats to Clifford Pirch of Arizona the National Guard Pro won his second U.S. Open

kb

KPalmer · Post by **KPalmer** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:32 pm

OJ Simpson is still innocent and Bill Clinton didn't have sexual relations with that woman.

Always cracks me up when someone is caught doing something red handed and then people jump into defend them.... I disagree with Gordon Ghecko....Greed is NOT good

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:34 pm

kb wrote:44 posts about this scumbag and not one mention of who won the U.S. Open.........Congrats to Clifford Pirch of Arizona the National Guard Pro won his second U.S. Open

kb

I think only because it hasn't been announced officially anywhere but maybe in Las Vegas or thereabouts.

sTony

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