heard a rumor from the AC pro/am delta tourney?

scanbass · Post by **scanbass** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:26 am

No accusations, just trying to clarify some rumors from the angler's choice pro/am at the delta...

heard there was an argument between the owner of AC and an AC tournament angler at last week's delta event regarding the owner getting caught with 6 fish in his well. heard he went and weighed in 5 fish and when called out on the 6th fish in the boat that was heard flopping around, an argument ensued before he DQ'd himself.

any truth to this? again, not accusing anyone, just curious about the details.

flipit · Post by **flipit** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:50 am

Perhaps it would be better if you just called Mark at Anglers Choice and asked him.

Bill Hutcheson · Post by **Bill Hutcheson** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:06 am

Mark Mendez was indeed disqualified on Day two for having a "6 fish limit" by the USAC tournament staff present at the weigh in.

No formal protests were filed with the tournament staff regarding this situation as Mark disqualified himself. As such, what you are looking for is exactly that - hearsay and innuendo.

Mark had a solid second day weight of over 25 pounds and this mistake unquestionably knocked him out of the money.

This however should serve as an example that the USAC tournament staff is committed to enforcing our rules regardless of who may be in violation. We are dedicated to running a fair circuit - just ask Mark!

Bill Hutcheson
USAC Director of Operations

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:12 am

Answer the question. Did he get "caught" trying to leave a fish in the live well, or did he notice his mistake and DQ himself?

scanbass · Post by **scanbass** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:21 am

flipit - I didn't know who to call or who to ask, figured this was a good place to start to sort thru the rumors.

Thanks for the info.

Mike - the first part of your question is what I heard.

Bill Cook · Post by **Bill Cook** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:37 am

You can call me. I dq'ed him.

Bill Cook
AC Pro-Am Director
661-319-3014

bigbass111 · Post by **bigbass111** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:54 am

Didn't Bill just say Mark Dq'd himself..

Now you say you dq'd him..

Interesting

Tin Can · Post by **Tin Can** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:15 am

flipit wrote:Perhaps it would be better if you just called Mark at Anglers Choice and asked him.

Now that's funny. Call the guy who got DQ'd.

Kevin Evans - Kap · Post by **Kevin Evans - Kap** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:27 am

I know you meant no harm you say, but this only leads to heresay and its done with and it should not of been posted...

My 2 cents.

Kap

Bill Hutcheson · Post by **Bill Hutcheson** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:31 am

Bigbass 111 -

Perhaps you should more closely re-read the threads.

I said that the US Anglers Choice staff disqualified Mark. You made an assumption that I DQ'd him. Nowhere did I say that.

At the Pro-Am events that I attend as staff, Bill Cook is the tournament director and while we may confer on a rules violation, it is his call that is the gospel. We have purposely established this hierarchy so that unlike some other orgs with multiple "Directors", we will not have any on site conflicts.

Besides, what are you trying to get at here?? A question was asked and an answer was given. Neither Bill Cook nor I were on the docks as we were at the weigh in location. Mark admitted his mistake, was DQ'd, and was effectively taken out of the running. End of story.

Hutch
USAC

basswest · Post by **basswest** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:53 am

Wow,,, Drama in fishing - Imagine that.... It's pretty sad of the haters who would like to make it into something. I did indeed tell Bill Cook and Bill Hutchenson that I had a sixth fish before me weighing in. I did also indeed weigh my biggest 5 Fish to see what they weighed and I earned that - like it or not. No angler had any conversation with me, let alone a agrument. that is a flat out lie. Long Nyugen who was a Am on the boat next to me asked me how many fish I weighed in and I told him. He saw me pull out my fish and count six fish, as did my AM and myself of course. Taylor Thompson was also in the next boat and I really do not know what he viewed, never spoke to him in that regards. My Am who I never met till that morning was told and of course saw the 6th fish before we ever left the boat. I worked hard pre-fishing to get on quality fish I know the haters would like to make it into something more, but it is what it is.... needless to say I was bummed on not being able to have a 25.83 sack on a tough bite, but I will catch them again.

Good Fishing
Mark Mendez

calfisher71 · Post by **calfisher71** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:55 am

Even Tommy Biffle has done this a BASS pro on TV, at that level as soon as you put the 6th fish on your livewell #6 you have issues.

It happens to hte best too! is my point and Im sure it was a oversite!
Mark is a good angler and im sure he was frustrated at this mistake!

lunker punker · Post by **lunker punker** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:02 pm

No matter what Mark you will never steal Mikes fame!!!!!!

blkdog812 · Post by **blkdog812** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:44 pm

if you have a question about something you heard, a "rumor", why not call the tournament officials first or ask the man yourself.
it just makes it look like all you really wanted to do, was to come on here and stir up the pot.
I dont know why there was a "rumor issue", he's not the first one in area to weight/ posses more that 5 fish during a tourney and get dq'd.
besides that it looks like he dq'd himself.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:26 pm

Well there you have it.

Great bag Mark. Sorry about the counting mistake, I dont know how anyone could do that!

Bill Cook · Post by **Bill Cook** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:42 pm

I have had a couple of phone calls regarding this today. Here are the facts:
3 people told me that Mark had 6 fish in his boat. Mark was the first one.
I told Mark I would take it under advisement and check the rules to confirm.
The rules state: It is the responsibility of each Pro/Am to keep no more than a maximum of five (5) fish in a live well. If more than five fish are present in the live well during the event you will be subject to disqualification.
I told Mark he would be dq'ed. He was not happy, but he understood and made no effort to get me to change my mind.

No one but Mark knows what he intended, however, he did the right thing and lived up to the standards we put in place. Period.

When Mark hired us to run the AC ProAms he told me "I want to fish and not worry about the tournament." He has kept to that and has enabled us to put what I think is the best staff in the west together.

Think what you like, but he did the right thing.

Bill Cook
USAC Pro Am Director
661-319-3014

Gary Dobyns · Post by **Gary Dobyns** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:59 pm

Thanks Bill Cook. Please look at that rule and CHANGE it. Years ago WCB changed it and WON Bass changed it many years ago too. Jeff Huth and i worked on Mike Kennady for 2 years. Weigh in time, maybe have 5, although.......... so what if a guy counts wrong and leaves one in the well. So what. Sorry MIKE, you tried to WEIGH 6

Here are the best reasons for allowing a LEGAL LIMIT (10) in the boat in a Pro-Am.

Many anglers BREAK this rule period.

Confusing with some circuits doing it one way and others another.

Releasing a few back into the school shuts them down. So the angler either carries the extra in the well (rules violation) or he throws them as far as he can away from the spot. Just facts guys.

I personally know the advisory board addressed this two years ago. For these reasons and recommended the change.

I have personally been breaking this rule, not knowing it till right now.

Bill this is a bad rule, I hope you guys re-visit it before next year. It hurts nothing to carry a few over the 5 wiegh in, limit. It does hurt the fish when you throw them as far as you can and we do it.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:50 pm

Here's the problem I have with this, Gary. It is a rule. Here's it is, in USAC Pro/Ams:

16) CULLING FISH: It is the responsibility of each Pro/Am to keep no more than a maximum of five (5) fish in a live well. If more than five fish are present in the live well during the event you will be subject to disqualification. No culling is allowed in the host marina. No culling of dead fish is allowed.

So reality is, if someone's fishing the USAC Pro Am's, they should be following ALL the rules for the events. Not picking and choosing.

This is made real clear in the USAC Pro/Am rules:

1) RULES: Interpretation and enforcement of U.S. Angler's Choice rules shall be left exclusively to the tournament director. Tournament directors may impose sanctions as deemed appropriate for rule infractions without limitation e.g., disqualification, forfeiture of prizes, entry fee and prohibition from participation in subsequent tournaments. Federal, state, local and lake laws and rules must be obeyed at all times and shall supersede U.S. Angler's Choice rules when in conflict. It is the responsibility of each entrant to know and obey all rules listed below and any lake or river specific rules. All decisions of the Tournament Director are final and may not be appealed.

What ever happened to the days when folks read the rules and followed them?

sTony

Cooch · Post by **Cooch** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:45 pm

Gary Dobyns wrote:Here are the best reasons for allowing a LEGAL LIMIT (10) in the boat in a Pro-Am.

You've got a big problem with this being implimented Gary. Cal DFG limit on black bass is 5 per angler. If yer on the bite and the AM is not(or Visa Versa), leagally one angler can not put more than 5 fish in the boat, just because there are 2 people there. As it was indicated in another post, this is probably the single most dominant factor in why we'll never see 7 fish limits again in team events, unless some exemption is written into the DFG regs for tournaments.

Gary Dobyns · Post by **Gary Dobyns** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:57 pm

It's a rule that a large majority of anglers break. If that many guys are breaking it, it should looked at. That's why the advisory committee voted to change the rule.

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:11 pm

Not true... there are provisions within the DFG Black Bass rules that do allow for an additional fish to be landed and for culling purposes:

Fish Culling during Black Bass Tournaments
Section 1.17. of Title 14, California Code of Regulations, Natural Resources, Bag and Possession Limit, provides that no more than one daily bag limit of each kind of fish, amphibian, reptile, mollusk or crustacean named in these regulations may be taken or possessed by any one person unless otherwise authorized; regardless of whether they are fresh, frozen, or otherwise preserved.

Additionally, Section 1.80. of Title 14, California Code of Regulations, Natural Resources, defines "Take" as to hunt, pursue, catch, capture or kill fish, amphibians, reptiles, mollusks, crustaceans or invertebrates or attempting to do so.

California Sport Fishing Regulations provide that anglers may take up to five bass per day when fishing; and fishing contest permit regulations provide that "insofar as possible; all fish shall be returned to the water alive and in good condition".

Section 230 of Title 14 contains new regulations adopted by the Fish and Game Commission which became effective September 22, 2005.

Section 230 (1)states: "No provisions of these regulations exempt any participant in a contest from the sport fishing regulations, except that the department may, for permitted contests, authorize an exemption to:

(A) Regulations which impose an increased minimum size limit larger than 12 inches, a slot size limit, or a reduced bag limit less than five fish for Type A contests, and; B) Daily bag and possession limits for all permitted black bass contests, insofar that once the daily bag and possession limit has been reached by an individual angler, that same angler may continue to fish under the condition that each additional fish caught must immediately be returned to the water alive and in good condition, or be used to replace a fish being maintained alive and in good condition from the participant's livewell or other suitable holding facility."

Note that Section 230 (B) applies to all permitted black bass contests while Section 230 (A) applies only to Type A ('Event') contest permits for which the exemption has been authorized.

Information regarding Zero (0) bag limits

Section 7.00. of Title 14, California Code of Regulations, Natural Resources District General Regulations; provides that in waters where the bag limit for trout or salmon is zero, fish for which the bag limit is zero must be released unharmed, and should not be removed from the water.

That means that for team events, the team can fish when they have 10 fish (individual) or 5 fish (shared weight) in the boat, but once they boat the additional fish they must stop fishing until the additional fish is culled.

Roger

Long Nguyen · Post by **Long Nguyen** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:16 pm

Gary Dobyns wrote:It's a rule that a large majority of anglers break. If that many guys are breaking it, it should looked at. That's why the advisory committee voted to change the rule.

Advisory committee or not Gary/Rodger, tourny rules do not supersede state laws. State laws say 5 fish per angler.

If the limit was 10 fish per boat in a tournament, and let's say the pro landed 5 keepers...he/she would have to start culling because he can not add to their 10 fish boat limit because the AM is responsible for the other 5 bass.

Remember...it's 5 bass per angler. Both anglers would have to catch their own limits even if it's a 10 fish combined weight.

It would be one heck of an exemption to get around that rule dude.

kopper_bass · Post by **kopper_bass** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:04 am

Tuna,
unfortunately you are confusing this rule with another and mis-interpreting it to a different issue - i think.

This rule is in place specifically to ensure that tournament angler's can CULL - period. Under state law, once you have 5 fish you cannot fish anymore and must stop.

you just proved the point that having a Pro/Am or Team event MUST only have 5 fish limits because each contestent (i.e. - angler by State Definition) can only keep 5 fish and the 6th fish must return to the water, or replace a fish in the well.

NO one angler may catch and keep 6 or more fish, no matter how many people are in the boat with a fishing license.

I fully understand Gary's point that guys are routinely breaking this rule, especially when fishing spotted bass or bedding bass, but that doesn't mean that just because many guys break the rule, we should remove it since it follows state law. removing the rule would then make it legal to break a state law, which is not right either.

Kopper

Kopper

Ricky-S · Post by **Ricky-S** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:25 am

I agree with Gary. Supid rule. Could be an honest mistake and does not give anyone an advantage. The rule should be changed.

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:23 am

tunaman wrote:That means that for team events, the team can fish when they have 10 fish (individual) or 5 fish (shared weight) in the boat, but once they boat the additional fish they must stop fishing until the additional fish is culled.

Roger

Not sure what part of this interpretation I missed on? Never said anything about keeping a 6th fish, but in bass fishing tournaments in California you are allowed to have five in the well and continue to fish to try for upgrades, having to stop fishing when another is caught until culled back to five in the well. You are not allowed to have more than a five fish limit in the well.

What is wrong about that statement?

And Long - those are California DFG (State) regulations.

Roger

EDIT: Having re-read the response from Andy, which is what I was responding to in the first place, I see the point he was making regarding an angler keeping a 6th fish just because they should be legally allowed two limits. The point above is the obvious one in that an angler can catch the sixth fish, but much cull immediately back down to five before resuming fishing.

clearlakeoutdoors · Post by **clearlakeoutdoors** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:55 am

The Hook line and sinker TEAM tournaments have been 7 fish limits for years.I fished them for three years and dont remember anybody asking who caught how many of the 7. Some events my partner caught more then me and some I caught more then him. Its a TEAM event! It seems to work for Gene. Only problem I have is those Jan events are hard to get 7.
Dave

2ndsuks · Post by **2ndsuks** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:00 am

I think getting DQed because you forgot an extra fish in the livewell is stupid.
There is no way to gain an advantage by this because you would have thrown the smallest fish out anyway.

DFG allows 10 fish in the boat when 2 anglers are fishing.
Splitting hairs on how many each angler can catch and cull is about as
much BS as the DFG rule itself, we release them all anyway.

Why not just make it a penalty instead of disqualification.

S. Bailey · Post by **S. Bailey** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:56 am

its not that hard to remember a 5 fish limit rule . If you have 6 , then heck yes you should be dqed. plain and simple . keep the rule the way it is its perfect !!!!! if you cant remember than by a clicker and have it count for you ... geeez guys .
if it shuts down a school of fish..... then go find another school
If you think a large number of anglers are breaking this rule than it should be enforced better. wa wa wa

Shaun Bailey

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:15 am

I am positive Mark has the fever to fish Tournaments like we all do, but I have a question? Isn't winning your own Tournaments kinda like the Governor winning the State lottery? Kudo's to him and the directors for doing the right thing, but why is that even an issue? It just seems out of place to me for the owner of a trail to try and beat his own customers out of the prize money they are helping him make a living with. On the other hand, how sweet would it be to say you won a Pro-Am from your biggest competitor? Thats a better way to get your "Fix", IMHO. Rick G.

2ndsuks · Post by **2ndsuks** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:42 am

Rick G wrote: It just seems out of place to me for the owner of a trail to try and beat his own customers out of the prize money they are helping him make a living with IMHO. Rick G.

No different than fishing tournaments against the guys you're selling boats to that are helping you make a living!

It's the tournament directors and staff that fish events and not pay entry fee's is what I have a problem with.

I remember a couple of years ago when Mark won the Clear Lake event, no body said a word when he paid his entry fee and fished, it wasn't until he won did the whiners come out.

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:10 am

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. All I am sellin are the tools to do the job. He is the job. In your case, no tackle store employees should fish, or how about boat reps? Sorry KB, or Mr. Tripp or Kevin Linehan, your out. I dont think in my years in this business, I have ever seen TBOB fish the Open, or Charley Evans, fish an FLW event. Listen, its up to him and if he thinks its no big deal, than thats his business. I do agree with you on the T/D deal. Rick G.

Bill Cook · Post by **Bill Cook** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:49 am

I will check with Kyle Murphy on the legalities of the issue. I personally don't like the rule or any rule that is unenforcable or that does not provide a competitive advantage when you break it (except for safety issues). By the way, we eliminated the 8' rod rule this year, we changed it to 9'.

As for Mark fishing, no one has made a comment to me about it. The only question I have been asked is "does he fish for free?"

I think it is great that the owner of our organization is an avid tournament fisherman.

Look for the "beat the owner" contest we are putting together for next season.

Bill Cook

Gary Dobyns · Post by **Gary Dobyns** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:11 am

Bill, why have a 9' rule. That rule is so out dated it's unbeliveable. It was put into effect mainly because of boat on boat draws. None now. Also, now a days guys just "pitch". I hate rules to have rules. This one should be gone.

As far as Mark fishing his own events. I think it's awesome!! He fishes other circuits event too! I think that's awesome. Any guy that pays an entry should be able to fish. The more the better.

Mark does not run the events and has nothing to do with them. There is a great staff in place that handles the job quite well. I hope Mark keeps fishing, cause I like to get some of his money

bryanmc · Post by **bryanmc** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:47 pm

Gary Dobyns wrote:Thanks Bill Cook. Please look at that rule and CHANGE it. Years ago WCB changed it and WON Bass changed it many years ago too.

WON rule:
Size Limits/Bag Limits â€“ Qualifying fish (Largemouth, Smallmouth, and Spotted Black Bass) must be a minimum of 13â€

kb · Post by kb » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:26 pm

Damn and Tripp and I were going to fish all the team tournaments on DVL next year....with the 25 mph speed limit nobody could pass me and I think we could just pay Kyle to keep you off the fish Rick....

I for one have no problem with Mark fishing. Every time I have fished them and he was fishing he was just an angler and Bill and Hutch ran the event.

I think if more organization owners would fish they would see things throught the anglers eyes. This I think is a good thing

kb

Keep fishing Mark!

Californiakid4 · Post by **Californiakid4** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:21 pm

I fished with Mark that day and it was just an honest mistake. We had an unbelievable afternoon catching big bass and simply lost count. He did the right thing and should be commended for it. 25.83lbs would make most people think twice about DQ themselves.

Gary Dobyns · Post by **Gary Dobyns** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:54 pm

Well some smart wizard changed it back. Mike Kennady changed this because of advise from anglers. Jeff Huth was another out spoken angler on this. We got it changed several years ago. Dumb rule. also did you know for years Won Bass Pro -ams were 6 fish weigh-ins.

2ndsuks · Post by **2ndsuks** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:39 pm

Rick G wrote: In your case, no tackle store employees should fish, or how about boat reps? Sorry KB, or Mr. Tripp or Kevin Linehan, your out. Not at all Rick, in my case anyone that pays their entry should be able to fish. I dont think in my years in this business, I have ever seen Charley Evans fish an FLW event .

Long Nguyen · Post by **Long Nguyen** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:38 pm

Californiakid4 wrote:I fished with Mark that day and it was just an honest mistake. We had an unbelievable afternoon catching big bass and simply lost count. He did the right thing and should be commended for it. 25.83lbs would make most people think twice about DQ themselves.

So Jeff, when you and Mark walked back after you weighed your fish...I asked how many you guys weighed. Shortly thereafter Mark left, and I confronted you about the 6th bass, and gave you the opportunity to DQ yourself before I filed a protest for rule violation.

Did you already DQ yourself before you got back to the boat? You didn't mention anything at the time about self DQ. In fact, you didn't say much at all.

Just asking for clarity.

basswest · Post by **basswest** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:48 am

Long, please re-read my original post. I stated in the boat to my am partner that we had 6 fish and it would be a DQ. I then went up to weigh my best 5 fish. At that time I told the Tournament Staff that I still had a fish in the boat and would be DQ.d. I told them that I would be back after taking the fish to the life release boat and close my boat up. When I went back to boat the second time, you asked me how many fish i weighed and I told you. The reality of what happened is not going to change, If you would like more clarity........ feel free to call me. i doubt, my phone will ring. The tournament directors have already stated these facts. I guess next i will need to prove i even caught them.

408 396 8442
Mark Mendez

Ricky-S · Post by **Ricky-S** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:12 am

Hey Mark-Let the haters keep haten. It's in the water...It only means that you are doing something.

This entire post is much to do about nothing....I'm sure that you aren't the only angler in the history of tournament fishing to bring 6 fish to the scales.

This happens more than people are willing to admit.

longshot · Post by **longshot** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:36 am

I just think there is nothing but whining chumps in the game of tournament fishing always ready to point the finger, blame, excuses ect.
We keep on saying that we need to do this or that to make it so that we draw more boats, have more fun BUT that is not possible because its the customers themselves that suck............... Dont hate the player hate the game right? lol
so happy football has started GOOOOOO s.f giants

ScottyJ · Post by **ScottyJ** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:41 am

Ricky-S wrote:
This happens more than people are willing to admit.

Yes it does. http://westernbass.com/forum/viewtopic. ... h+fish&f=2

So everyone should quit bickering like schoolgirls and go figure out how to catch ur own 25lb bag

snapitoff2002 · Post by **snapitoff2002** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:44 am

I feel bad for you Mark. Especially with that big bag! I know you can catch em', so it had to be an honest mistake.

ScottyJ · Post by **ScottyJ** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:47 am

longshot wrote: so happy football has started GOOOOOO s.f giants

Ummm last time we checked s.f. giants was a baseball team.

Long Nguyen · Post by **Long Nguyen** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:37 am

basswest wrote:Long, please re-read my original post. I stated in the boat to my am partner that we had 6 fish and it would be a DQ. I then went up to weigh my best 5 fish. At that time I told the Tournament Staff that I still had a fish in the boat and would be DQ.d. I told them that I would be back after taking the fish to the life release boat and close my boat up. When I went back to boat the second time, you asked me how many fish i weighed and I told you. The reality of what happened is not going to change, If you would like more clarity........ feel free to call me. i doubt, my phone will ring. The tournament directors have already stated these facts. I guess next i will need to prove i even caught them.

408 396 8442
Mark Mendez

I don't need to call Mark, because I was there and witnessed the whole thing. My questions are directed to Jeff. Thanks.

Long Nguyen · Post by **Long Nguyen** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:42 am

Ricky-S wrote:Hey Mark-Let the haters keep haten. It's in the water...It only means that you are doing something.

This entire post is much to do about nothing....I'm sure that you aren't the only angler in the history of tournament fishing to bring 6 fish to the scales.

This happens more than people are willing to admit.

Ricky,when is enforcing a tournament rule being a hater?

Just because you don't agree with a rule doesn't mean that it isn't a valid rule and must be enforced. When I started to bass fish, Ray Scott's rule in B.A.S.S. competition was that if you witnessed a rule infraction, you were just as guilty as the party who broke the rules if you did not report it.

I still think it's how we should police ourselves today.

Californiakid4 · Post by **Californiakid4** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:13 am

Long,

I was told you got in our boat? We had 6 fish. We DQ'd ourselves. I didn't say much to you because I didn't owe you an explanation and you were rude as hell to me. We did the right thing so just let it go already let's move on keep fishing. I bet this wont be the last time someone has 6 fish in their boat.

Terry Smith · Post by **Terry Smith** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:30 am

Rules are rules don't like them don't fish!!!! Next thing you will hear is why should I get DQed for coming in A half hour late??? I was on the fish and didn't want to leave them can I still weigh-in???

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