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Vince E
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A lesson to be learned here

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The great non sequitur committed by defenders of the State, including classical Aristotelian and Thomist philosophers, is to leap from the necessity of society to the necessity of the State.
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Well the unregulated Chinese trawlers with their miles long nets are ruining the world wide fishing industry too.
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Too bad oceans weren't private property. Could you see the Chinese coming into the mid west with a huge harvester?
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I smell sovereignty :D
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Vince E wrote:Too bad oceans weren't private property. Could you see the Chinese coming into the mid west with a huge harvester?
WUT?
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A concept so foreign to the average public school conditioned statist that they don't even know what I'm talking about.

Agriculture would never have developed without property rights. No one would spend the time and resources to prepare a harvest if anyone could come in and grab it.
If Earth grown food were treated like we treat the gifts of the sea we would have starved, or rather there never would have been many of us in the first place. You know, the land being "over-harvested". Like the sea is "over-fished".

Now, imagine the Chinese as "anyone" coming in to harvest in the Midwest under a condition of "nobody owning it" or it's evil twin= everyone owning it.
Get it now?
The great non sequitur committed by defenders of the State, including classical Aristotelian and Thomist philosophers, is to leap from the necessity of society to the necessity of the State.
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Vince E wrote:A concept so foreign to the average public school conditioned statist that they don't even know what I'm talking about.

Agriculture would never have developed without property rights. No one would spend the time and resources to prepare a harvest if anyone could come in and grab it.
If Earth grown food were treated like we treat the gifts of the sea we would have starved, or rather there never would have been many of us in the first place. You know, the land being "over-harvested". Like the sea is "over-fished".

Now, imagine the Chinese as "anyone" coming in to harvest in the Midwest under a condition of "nobody owning it" or it's evil twin= everyone owning it.
Get it now?
So you consider modernization a good thing!
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With all due respect, where would nature have had you for the last several decades without modernization?
There sure as hell wouldn't have been enough wealth (food) flowing around to feed anyone who couldn't labor and fight.
I don't intend to be mean, just asking a legitimate question that shows a lapse in logical consistency on your part.

To all of the people who think humanity and its population is evil....you have the ability to do your part by reducing it by one.
They never seem to take up the offer. They usually think THEY are the ones who need to be kept around for the good of the planet and all that.
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Vince E wrote:With all due respect, where would nature have had you for the last several decades without modernization?
There sure as hell wouldn't have been enough wealth (food) flowing around to feed anyone who couldn't labor and fight.
I don't intend to be mean, just asking a legitimate question that shows a lapse in logical consistency on your part.

To all of the people who think humanity and its population is evil....you have the ability to do your part by reducing it by one.
They never seem to take up the offer. They usually think THEY are the ones who need to be kept around for the good of the planet and all that.
I'll have a great answer for you tomorrow when I sober up. :D
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I'm just messin with you Greg, take the revolver out of your mouth :)
The great non sequitur committed by defenders of the State, including classical Aristotelian and Thomist philosophers, is to leap from the necessity of society to the necessity of the State.
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