what length, action (med, fast, ex fast etc) and power (mh, h etc) would you use on the delta for the following types of baits and what kind of line for each?:
worms (t-rig, brass n glass etc)
jigs (i just assume flipping stick right?)
senko (same as worm rod? if not how is it different?)
frog (how does it differ from a normal flipping stick? and i know to only use 65# braid here)
where do creature type baits fit into this breakdown?
thanks
what style rods for the delta
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Re: what style rods for the delta
rs-
You can use a similar rod for most of the applications you list. My personal preference are 7', 7.5' and 8' rods for the delta. Most, if not all, are fast actions for the techniques you listed. Power ranges from Med-Hvy to Ex-Hvy.
I learned a lesson the hard way in a Pro Am back in 1999 about using light fishing line for pitchin. Most would consider 15lb test okay, but I will no longer use anything lighter than 20lb if I'm pitching or flipping. If I need to have lighter line to help with the action of a bait, I'll opt to use braid in 50lb instead.
I prefer to pitch my single hook lures (worms, jigs and senkos) more on the delta rather than cast. Therefore, I like to use heavy action rods in longer lengths. I use my worms, jigs and senkos all on the same rods. And I'm mixing in creature lures in this mix too.
For frogs, you'll actually come across situations where a flipping stick is not ideal. Most of the time, if you're fishing a frog over weeds and such, you'll need a flipping style rod. But if you pay attention to the likes of Dean Rojas on tour, and what Bobby Barrack has been doing for YEARS on the delta, you'll notice that he tosses the frog in open water and works it like a spook. Therefore, you'll need a rod with a little slower action but still a MedHvy-Hvy power.
My brand preference are Kistler rods. Specifically, I like the Helium LTA rods. They're a premium end rod, but they are the absolute lightest rod you'll ever come across. If you're around the delta, I'll be happy to show you the rods I use.
Long
You can use a similar rod for most of the applications you list. My personal preference are 7', 7.5' and 8' rods for the delta. Most, if not all, are fast actions for the techniques you listed. Power ranges from Med-Hvy to Ex-Hvy.
I learned a lesson the hard way in a Pro Am back in 1999 about using light fishing line for pitchin. Most would consider 15lb test okay, but I will no longer use anything lighter than 20lb if I'm pitching or flipping. If I need to have lighter line to help with the action of a bait, I'll opt to use braid in 50lb instead.
I prefer to pitch my single hook lures (worms, jigs and senkos) more on the delta rather than cast. Therefore, I like to use heavy action rods in longer lengths. I use my worms, jigs and senkos all on the same rods. And I'm mixing in creature lures in this mix too.
For frogs, you'll actually come across situations where a flipping stick is not ideal. Most of the time, if you're fishing a frog over weeds and such, you'll need a flipping style rod. But if you pay attention to the likes of Dean Rojas on tour, and what Bobby Barrack has been doing for YEARS on the delta, you'll notice that he tosses the frog in open water and works it like a spook. Therefore, you'll need a rod with a little slower action but still a MedHvy-Hvy power.
My brand preference are Kistler rods. Specifically, I like the Helium LTA rods. They're a premium end rod, but they are the absolute lightest rod you'll ever come across. If you're around the delta, I'll be happy to show you the rods I use.
Long
Re: what style rods for the delta
so from what ive gathered it seems a frog rod should be heavy power and fast action i assume...the lamiglas and kistler have identical specs on paper..the loomis is extra fast tho. from what ive gathered most people use kistlers these days.Long Nguyen wrote:rs-
You can use a similar rod for most of the applications you list. My personal preference are 7', 7.5' and 8' rods for the delta. Most, if not all, are fast actions for the techniques you listed. Power ranges from Med-Hvy to Ex-Hvy.
I learned a lesson the hard way in a Pro Am back in 1999 about using light fishing line for pitchin. Most would consider 15lb test okay, but I will no longer use anything lighter than 20lb if I'm pitching or flipping. If I need to have lighter line to help with the action of a bait, I'll opt to use braid in 50lb instead.
I prefer to pitch my single hook lures (worms, jigs and senkos) more on the delta rather than cast. Therefore, I like to use heavy action rods in longer lengths. I use my worms, jigs and senkos all on the same rods. And I'm mixing in creature lures in this mix too.
For frogs, you'll actually come across situations where a flipping stick is not ideal. Most of the time, if you're fishing a frog over weeds and such, you'll need a flipping style rod. But if you pay attention to the likes of Dean Rojas on tour, and what Bobby Barrack has been doing for YEARS on the delta, you'll notice that he tosses the frog in open water and works it like a spook. Therefore, you'll need a rod with a little slower action but still a MedHvy-Hvy power.
My brand preference are Kistler rods. Specifically, I like the Helium LTA rods. They're a premium end rod, but they are the absolute lightest rod you'll ever come across. If you're around the delta, I'll be happy to show you the rods I use.
Long
im still looking for a good worm rod..i pitch too, can you recommend a particular model to look at? id be using around 15 or 17# line.
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Re: what style rods for the delta
rs-
I don't have a desginated pitchin rod. But the 8' LTA is hands down my favorite rod for the baits you listed. I can pitch a bait super far or flip a bait a good distance without any splash. When I get bit it moves a lot of line and I can control the fish pretty easily.
If you fish a lot around the docks of Disco, Taylor, Piper etc, then perhaps a shorter rod in the 6'8" or even 6'6" will suit you better.
It's really what preference you want and where you do most of your fishing. Just make sure that the rod loads easily to pitch and that it has enough power to move fish. For me, the longer rod makes pitchin and flippin easier.
You can check out these rods at Dave's Bass Shack in Tracy. Or I'll be happy to show you what I have if you're around the delta.
Long
I don't have a desginated pitchin rod. But the 8' LTA is hands down my favorite rod for the baits you listed. I can pitch a bait super far or flip a bait a good distance without any splash. When I get bit it moves a lot of line and I can control the fish pretty easily.
If you fish a lot around the docks of Disco, Taylor, Piper etc, then perhaps a shorter rod in the 6'8" or even 6'6" will suit you better.
It's really what preference you want and where you do most of your fishing. Just make sure that the rod loads easily to pitch and that it has enough power to move fish. For me, the longer rod makes pitchin and flippin easier.
You can check out these rods at Dave's Bass Shack in Tracy. Or I'll be happy to show you what I have if you're around the delta.
Long
Re: what style rods for the delta
rs,
LN has it pretty well covered. My personal preference is for 7' MH or 7' H rods for the Delta as general purpose rods. I also use the Kistler 7'6" one-piece LTA's. For comparison's sake, the new Powell MAX rods have a similiar configuration and are worth a look as well.
LN has it pretty well covered. My personal preference is for 7' MH or 7' H rods for the Delta as general purpose rods. I also use the Kistler 7'6" one-piece LTA's. For comparison's sake, the new Powell MAX rods have a similiar configuration and are worth a look as well.
Dennis "Cal" Shew
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