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I'm surprised of the lack of participation in the signing of this petition. It takes 30 seconds. These tunnels will gut the delta of largemouth. Sign if you like fishing frogs. Thanks in advance. https://www.change.org/p/take-action-op ... tone_email
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bayscotter wrote:I'm surprised of the lack of participation in the signing of this petition. It takes 30 seconds. These tunnels will gut the delta of largemouth. Sign if you like fishing frogs. Thanks in advance. https://www.change.org/p/take-action-op ... tone_email
Couldn't agree more! There are so many folks that are going to regret not getting involved in this fight. Take a minute and sign the petition and get involved.
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Thank you to all who are signing!!!!! More are needed. Do your part. Takes under a minute
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done
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Done, pass it on to everyone! We all need to sign it.

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Cool, someone else posting ways to help our bass fishing in California! :D

Filled out the form then posted to my facebook page by hitting the button that did it for me on the thanks page. 8)
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From the site on why we want to stop this (in case you need a reasonable case to make to friends):

The San Francisco Bay-Delta is the largest and most unique estuary on the Pacific Coast of the Americas.

Fresh, clean, water supports the largest nursery for California fisheries, the largest Pacific Coast fly over stop for migrating waterfowl, more than 500,000 acres of California prime farmland, and an urban community that is home to over 4 million people.

Gov. Brown has proposed massive underground water export tunnels now called the "California Water Fix" though it is essentially the same project as the peripheral canal, which California voters rejected in 1982 by a 62.7% majority.

The tunnels could grab the Sacramento River, which is the main supply of fresh water in the Delta and San Francisco Bay estuary. About 30 percent of water exported from the Delta goes to cities. But Big Ag on the southwest side of the San Joaquin Valley get about 70 percent of Delta water, which mostly goes to grow water intensive almonds and pistachios on unsustainable desert soils for lucrative overseas exports.

The Tunnels plan would be devastating to the ecology and economy of the San Francisco Bay-Delta region. The plan also ignores shovel-ready urban and rural projects that would create local jobs and enhance water sustainability for the future.
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signed
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Signed and passed on.
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Done
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Signed
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I signed..
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Everyone please sign and SHARE on your Facebook also!
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done and shared
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TravisH wrote:Everyone please sign and SHARE on your Facebook also!

Travis,
At the minimum level, every bass club in the Delta should be on board with this, and willing to take it up as their own issue. The water we all fish is threatened.
On a larger scale, the impact of the water reductions the Tunnels will cause should be the concern of every Californian.
Are we willing to sacrifice the ecosystem that is the Delta so that San Joaquin Argibusiness can export our water, in the form of alfalfa to Japan, to feed their beef cows, and nuts to the international market? We have to ask ourselves, are these people that important to us, when agriculture is such a small percentage of our State's economy? They use 70% of the water that flows south, but they don't provide anywhere near the economic returns that SoCal provides, with only 30% of the water usage. They are using State subsidized water to profit at a time of historical drought, and sending our precious water, in the form of water-intensive crops, overseas.
First they export our jobs, now our water. What's next, our kids?
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From the California Delta Scuttlebutt newsletter: California Delta Chambers & Visitor's Bureau <info@californiadelta.org>


September 2015
We have a critical problem facing our California Delta. The public comment period for the Jerry Brown / John Laird twin tunnel boondoggle ends on October 30. It is critical that all people that love the Delta and do not want to see it destroyed submit their opposition to the plan. You should also contact your elected representatives and demand they use their influence to stop this pending disaster.
The Restore the Delta organization has announced that documents gained through public records actions show that water exporters and the Delta Design Construction Enterprise housed within the California Department of Water Resources have already developed plans to “acquire” family farms and right of way in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta through eminent domain.
The innocent sounding “Acquisition Management Plan” will be used to gain ownership of private property that lies within the tunnel right of way. If a landowner refuses to sell then eminent domain proceedings will start. Plans are already in place to seize all or part of 300 parcels of land in the Delta to support the BDCP many of these are family farms dating back to the gold rush era of the 1850s.
In another development, on August 27th the California Department of Water Resources (DWR) and the U. S. Bureau of Reclamation (USBR) announced that they have jointly submitted permit requests to add three additional points of water diversion from the Sacramento River to supply the State Water Project and Central Valley Project.
The three intakes would each have a capacity of 3,000 cubic feet per second (cfs). If you want an idea of the scale of the intakes take a look at the East Bay Municipal Utility District’s intake just upstream from the Freeport Bridge. That intake is capable of extracting about 300 cfs of water from the river. Imagine the size of an intake that could take ten times that amount and then multiply that times three.
Calling this step an “important milestone for the project” the agencies have begun the process of clearing the way for the Delta Tunnels, despite the fact that the EIR/EIS on the proposed project is open for public comment until October 30, 2015.
Contractors also call for minimal public input. "All transactions are conducted, reviewed and approved internally by DCE staff and managers to maintain control and avoid unnecessary delays to schedule," the property plan outlines. "DCE shall seek to minimize external review and approval requirements."
In a June interview, Neil Gould, an attorney for the Department of Water Resources, said that the planning for the proposed tunnels was no more than 10 percent complete and had focused on assessing the environmental impact.
You must submit your comments prior to October 30, mail them to: BDCP/WaterFix Comments, P.O. Box 1919, Sacramento, CA 95812 or email them to: BDCPComments@icfi.com
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To make it simple, the water will flow through the tunnels at a swimming pool per second rate. Sign the frogging petition!! Have your ex wife sign too
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To better understand what is happening currently with our available water resources.
1. 11% is used by the general public (drinking, lawns, showers etc.)
2. 42% is used by agriculture our number one economic income for the state.
3. 47% almost half of all water available is flushed out to sea via the delta literally wasted.

Our Gov. has required the general public to reduce our personal water usage by 1/3 this is from 2013 levels.
We have a water shortage that is manmade caused by the wacko environmentalists to protect a 3" Delta smelt. It seems special interests consider fish more important than people and food production.
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artie1 wrote:To better understand what is happening currently with our available water resources.
1. 11% is used by the general public (drinking, lawns, showers etc.)
2. 42% is used by agriculture our number one economic income for the state.
3. 47% almost half of all water available is flushed out to sea via the delta literally wasted.

Our Gov. has required the general public to reduce our personal water usage by 1/3 this is from 2013 levels.
We have a water shortage that is manmade caused by the wacko environmentalists to protect a 3" Delta smelt. It seems special interests consider fish more important than people and food production.
Thank God someone on this forum has the facts right! I'm with you, Artie.
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Artie1, This is a fishing website. Can you give me the benifits of draining one of the best fisheries in the world to ship water to the desert help fishing please? Water flows to the sea isn't "wasting " water. It cleans the bay and would have a terrible impact on the entire west coast ecosystem. Sign the petition
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The CA economy is $2 trillion.
San Joaquin Valley agribusiness is $2.25 billion. A lot, but small in comparison to the overall economy.
This desperate and hugely expensive water grab to benefit farmers who raise water-intensive crops and then ship them overseas, in effect exporting our water, is wrong.
Sign the petition!!!
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artie1 wrote:To better understand what is happening currently with our available water resources.
1. 11% is used by the general public (drinking, lawns, showers etc.)
2. 42% is used by agriculture our number one economic income for the state.
3. 47% almost half of all water available is flushed out to sea via the delta literally wasted.

Our Gov. has required the general public to reduce our personal water usage by 1/3 this is from 2013 levels.
We have a water shortage that is manmade caused by the wacko environmentalists to protect a 3" Delta smelt. It seems special interests consider fish more important than people and food production.
This guy is clueless.
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'artie1' works for Stewart Resnick. No other way to explain such sillyness.
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Done

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Gov Brown and the rest of these so called decision makers need to start looking at pledging money for detention dams and holding reservoirs through out California. Every major storm that comes through SoCal causes millions of dollars in damage and clean up. Detention dams and pumping stations would allow most of that water to be held back and or pumped to the holding reservoirs for future use.
Just off the coast of California holds vast fresh water aquafers beneath the ocean floors, why is the state or the water mongers not working with the oil drilling industry to drill and pipe some of this water inland again to holding reservoirs; Brown and Resnyk can make a ton of money off of this!

Water is like having money in your bank account and some times you have much more going out then coming in. When you start running low you cannot give or loan any out to the kids or cousin Eddie out in the desert because you have to keep what little you have to survive.
If SoCal needs more water they need to open up some bank accounts and start making some deposits; "build reservoirs" when they get the opportunities, this goes for the water brokers who are making billions shipping this liquid gold down south!

One has to wonder just how much of the water going down through the aquaduct right now is water that is being pilfered and not accounted for, Is there anyone who has a checks and balance system in place for how much actually goes through the gates? I wonder if someone somewhere is getting a few bucks under the table to leave the gates open a little wider or longer than they should be for someone else to pull if off down stream and use and or sell it?
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Apparently more signatures needed. Sign please! Do your part and pass it on. Thanks
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bayscotter wrote:Apparently more signatures needed. Sign please! Do your part and pass it on. Thanks
Maybe having people at bass tourneys to get signatures would help.
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Bass anglers as a group need to come together and get in the fight. This can not be one of those instances that this group won't become involved because this group is involved etc...... We will ALL loose if we allow the Delta to be destroyed. Bobby Barrack and the folks at Restore the Delta have been warning us for years that this was coming and as a group we didn't head the warnings. The writing is on the wall now my friends. Get involved now or risk loosing the Delta.

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