Fuel brand an additives?

jimmyG · Post by **jimmyG** » Wed May 25, 2022 9:00 am

Now that 15% ethanol has been approved and in use, are there any fuel brands that for marine application we should beware of? What fuel brands still use the 10% ethanol? Sorry for the question, but I don't know if I trust the ethanol stickers on the pump.

Other than fuel stabilizer, is anybody using any other fuel type additives?

Jboutfishn · Post by **Jboutfishn** » Wed May 25, 2022 11:00 am

California currently is 10 ethanol. Don't believe any additive is approved to make E15 usable in small engines and outboards. Mercury specifically states you cannot use E15. This will prove to be interesting.

jiggin4bass · Post by **jiggin4bass** » Wed May 25, 2022 8:52 pm

Why not just use Chevron or texaco both have techron both are ethanol free. I use Chevron in my boat and my motors a merc 1976 850 thunderbolt.

Whoopbass · Post by **Whoopbass** » Wed May 25, 2022 9:06 pm

I don't think there is any ethanol free gas in CA. All gas is the same except for the additives name brand gas stations add. If they do start selling 15% ethanol gas I hope they post it at the pump.

MichaelB · Post by **MichaelB** » Thu May 26, 2022 3:29 am

jiggin4bass wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:52 pm Why not just use Chevron or texaco both have techron both are ethanol free. I use Chevron in my boat and my motors a merc 1976 850 thunderbolt.

I don't believe Chevron is ethanol free ......

Mitch · Post by **Mitch** » Thu May 26, 2022 10:32 am

I've read varying reports about Chevron gas being E-Free so since I have an Ethanol test kit, I'm gonna check it and see. Here's some of what I've found doing a google search

"What's wrong with ethanol?

First of all, it is made out of corn. This is a problem because we are literally burning our food, which causes prices to rise here at home and around the world. Ethanol itself is also corrosive to rubber and plastics. Leaving ethanol laden fuel in your equipment or vehicle for an extended period of time can cause all kinds of damage. When ethanol is mixed with gasoline, and then left to sit for a long period of time (such as in a snowblower during the summer), it separates itself from the gasoline and binds with water. This becomes a deadly mixture for not just the rubber and plastic tubes, but for the entire engine itself. So save yourself the pain and find an e0 station near you" !

If it's so bad why is it used?

Politics, plain and simple. Iowa is the first state in the presidential caucas. Losing Iowa is a very bad sign for any presidential contender. Therefore, concessions must be made to the Iowans, and the most powerful group is the corn lobby. What better way to drive up prices than to force everyone to burn it in their fuel? Have a look at the map to the right showing the concentration of corn production around the country, you will see that Iowa is the epicenter.

https://www.buyrealgas.com/

TonyM · Post by **TonyM** » Thu May 26, 2022 1:50 pm

Chevron doesn’t claim their gas is ethanol free. First I’ve ever heard of that was a few posts above. I’ll be very surprised if it is.

Dave Brabec · Post by **Dave Brabec** » Sat May 28, 2022 5:48 am

I use the Mercury Fuel additive every trip.

Mitch · Post by **Mitch** » Tue May 31, 2022 6:30 pm

I tested Chevron Regular gas today, just like Costco, Walmart, FoodsCo, Sinclair, Shell, and Valero, it was 10% Ethanol !!

jiggin4bass · Post by **jiggin4bass** » Tue May 31, 2022 8:59 pm

There going to be a loud boom in your guys future

CBS · Post by **CBS** » Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:59 am

Are 4 stroke motors less sensitive to ethanol?

Water_Dog · Post by **Water_Dog** » Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:38 am

There are only two oil refineries in CA where we are getting our fuel from. Doesn't matter where you fuel up, its all the same. So if you want to pay the extra .80 cents a gallon putting chevron in for no reason instead of Arco or Safeway, have fun wasting your hard earned money.

Water_Dog · Post by **Water_Dog** » Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:39 am

CBS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:59 am Are 4 stroke motors less sensitive to ethanol?

No, still eats at the gaskets etc if you don't run an additive.

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:49 am

Water_Dog wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:39 am
CBS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:59 am Are 4 stroke motors less sensitive to ethanol?
No, still eats at the gaskets etc if you don't run an additive.

Will Stabil fuel additives protect from E15?

jiggin4bass · Post by **jiggin4bass** » Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:45 pm

Yes Sta-Bil 360 marine additives will protect against E10 E15 and E85 fuel mixtures. Sta-Bil has a website that will answer your questions.

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:06 pm

jiggin4bass wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:45 pm Yes Sta-Bil 360 marine additives will protect against E10 E15 and E85 fuel mixtures. Sta-Bil has a website that will answer your questions.

Thank you.

TonyL · Post by **TonyL** » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:19 am

Water_Dog wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:38 am There are only two oil refineries in CA where we are getting our fuel from. Doesn't matter where you fuel up, its all the same. So if you want to pay the extra .80 cents a gallon putting chevron in for no reason instead of Arco or Safeway, have fun wasting your hard earned money.

This is true until it gets to the stations. Years ago we had an Automotive additive Rep/Salesman at our Dealership. Very knowledgeable. He explained that when fuel gets to stations additives are then mixed in with fuel as its pumped into storage tanks. E.g. Techron added at Chevron. Not all stations were the same. He then proceeded to test fuel samples in front of us. Chevron and Unocal were the best for having additives. Arco had little to none added. So if you use Arco exclusively you could potentially have an issue as the cleaners that are supposed to be in there keeping injectors clean were not there. I use Arco in my autos only. But mix in Chevron every couple tanks. I wonder though, if I'm adding Mercury additives at every fill up for boat would Arco be ok ??? I dont gamble on my boat.