River's End - California's Latest Water War

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River's End - California's Latest Water War

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River's End - California's Latest Water War
Explore the global water crisis, using California as a microcosm. River's End shows how water politics that led to the draining of the Owens Valley by Los Angeles, made famous by the film "Chinatown," continue to this day in ongoing efforts to take ever more water from Northern California's San Francisco Bay estuary. Except this time, the water grab is at the hands of industrial agriculture.

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El Jefe
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Bunch of bs…. Agriculture does use more water than in the past but that is only due to being pushed into less desirable farm land….. urban sprawl is and will continue to be the downfall of this state. Urban water usage has increased at a FAR higher percentage than agricultural……. The only difference is that there are more voters on one side of the issue than the other so the narrative will be skewed in their favor.

You can have a city anywhere….. certain agricultural products can only be grown in their preferred climate.

And before the crying about “we aren’t growing food…. We are exporting almonds”….. it’s a business…. If farmers weren’t forced off their land and forced to compete with inflated land prices caused by urban sprawl they wouldn’t have been forced to find more valuable crops…… I personally know many ranchers who have been forced out of the cattle and dairy business and had to convert to almonds to keep up with the idiotic land prices, taxes, input costs, labor, and regulations in general of this dumb state.
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El Jefe wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:14 am Bunch of bs…. Agriculture does use more water than in the past but that is only due to being pushed into less desirable farm land….. urban sprawl is and will continue to be the downfall of this state. Urban water usage has increased at a FAR higher percentage than agricultural……. The only difference is that there are more voters on one side of the issue than the other so the narrative will be skewed in their favor.

You can have a city anywhere….. certain agricultural products can only be grown in their preferred climate.

And before the crying about “we aren’t growing food…. We are exporting almonds”….. it’s a business…. If farmers weren’t forced off their land and forced to compete with inflated land prices caused by urban sprawl they wouldn’t have been forced to find more valuable crops…… I personally know many ranchers who have been forced out of the cattle and dairy business and had to convert to almonds to keep up with the idiotic land prices, taxes, input costs, labor, and regulations in general of this dumb state.
Everything you wrote is total B.S. except "its a business". Yeah it's a business and AG don't give two shits what they do to the environment as long as they make that money.
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Why do many fisherman whine about the Delta
It's not going anywhere so they put some big pipe in too ship water south. I don't see it an a big deal. And selling water is a dam good business. Your fishing isn't going to get destroyed 8bn the next 100 year. So stop complaining.
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