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JVGondal wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:44 pm What do you want me to say? I do not agree with one word you speak.
If you can not see the left is trying to turn this country into a communist country I can’t help you.
Joe Rogan like many of us recently turned from the leftist loony tunes idiocy. They attack and cancel those who challenge or question their stupidity.
Example. The vaccine is the only way to survive Covid and those who take it can not catch or spread the disease
Those who choose not to vaccinate should not receive medical care or be allowed in public and must be fired
The mask works too even though we know it does not
Mankind controls the climate
The fires in Ca are proof we need electric car and alternative energy mandates
There are multiple sexes after male and female
Trans men can play in woman sports
Giving drug addicts needles and alcohol helps
Tampons in the boys room is a great idea
Bigger gas taxes are needed
There is no inflation due to the attack on diesel trucks and automobiles
Diesel trucks need to be removed from Ca
More gun laws are needed because the criminals follow the law.
I can keep going but those are a few reasons Trump is in office you silly democrats
Monte. Not you 😀
Communism has not been a serious American political movement since the 1940s. Maybe you mean socialism? Do you actually believe there are serious people attempting to implement Soviet-style communism?

Rogan did not “recently” turn from a leftist philosophy. This guy has been a detached millionaire since the 90s. I listened to his first several podcasts live on Justin.tv way back in the day. He has always been libertarian. In 2012 he went on the Tonight Show with Ron Paul to endorse him (hard to get more to the right of Paul). I used to argue about politics with Rogan on his forum fifteen years ago. So he got behind Bernie Sanders for a few months? Who did that ultimately benefit?

Who has actually been canceled? Podcasters love to talk about that, but we live in a free market. Has Mel Gibson been canceled? He seems to be doing okay. How about Shane Gillis? You let the extremes of twitter (amplifying extreme voices) shape your worldview.

You talk about COVID……who created “Operation Warp speed”? Who is planning on using AI to make more MNRA vaccines? You have to keep this same contrarian energy with our new President!

A lot of your issues revolve around gender and women’s sports. Did you know that only 1 in 100 people identify as transgender? Have you ever even met one? Yet they make such a convenient “boogeyman” (no pun intended) for propaganda purposes. Personally, I decided a few years ago that I was spending too much time discussing “trans issues” in conversations with conservatives at work. It did not affect my life at all. Why obsess over it? Of course I agree women’s sports should be for women. But I have never heard of this issue in Nor-Cal youth (high school) sports. And I imagine the San Jose State volleyball situation will eventually be corrected by athletic commissions. At the end of the day, women’s sports is not a top-100 political issue for me. I have more important things to vote on.

There will always be trans people, but I would say most of them today have been led there by social media algorithms. Ironically, just like social media algorithms have led many of you to worship this 78-year-old New York elite businessman. Should we continue to let impressionable youth be preyed upon by big tech? I would say regulate them. Will our new President do this? Considering he is in bed with literally all of them - I would say not! Imagine how much revenue Meta would lose if teenagers could not use their apps during school hours. Or any number of regulations that would help our nation’s future. This is a form of oligarchy and I doubt it’s what any of you Trump supporters would actually want.

I don’t expect to change anybody’s mind. Reasonable people can intelligently come to conservative positions. I would just hope that you would, in the future, question some of the potential propaganda you are exposed to (because it’s rampant).

At the end of the day, Trump won 49.8% to 48.3%. None of these issues are settled. I won’t come here making threads when the Democrats provide a better candidate and win one of the next ones.
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Shortsighted ,naive, absurd , Leninist, leftist ,dullard, illogical. Mainstream Media

Many regular people have been cancelled. Lost jobs.

Well known figures you might know they would love to cancel. If only they knew how much we would love to cancel them.

Hank Williams jr
Tucker Carlson
Rosanne Barr
Kevin Hart
James Woods
Jordan Peterson
DONALD TRUMP
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Trump go's scorch earth on Day 4 let go get Canada Greenland and the Panama canel & pick up them illegal 460 bad guys 33 hours and it's just the start :D
All done by my little convicted felon buddy 47 :lol:
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:22 am Shortsighted ,naive, absurd , Leninist, leftist ,dullard, illogical. Mainstream Media

Many regular people have been cancelled. Lost jobs.

Well known figures you might know they would love to cancel. If only they knew how much we would love to cancel them.

Tucker Carlson
Rosanne Barr
Kevin Hart
James Woods
Jordan Peterson
DONALD TRUMP
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jiggin4bass wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:54 am Trump go's scorch earth on Day 4 let go get Canada Greenland and the Panama canel & pick up them illegal 460 bad guys 33 hours and it's just the start :D
All done by my little convicted felon buddy 47 :lol:
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Ken
There are just as many left podcast as right
They are not popular because the content is well know nonsense and anti American
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:37 am Ken
There are just as many left podcast as right
They are not popular because the content is well know nonsense and anti
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Monte
I’m not so sure lgbt being a trend. I do know younger people tell me the most popular kids in school are lgbt now days. I’m sure some go that route to be accepted
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:18 am Monte
I’m not so sure lgbt being a trend. I do know younger people tell me the most popular kids in school are lgbt now days. I’m sure some go that route to be accepted
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Can’t argue that one !
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Governor Nutsack better shapeup the President is now focusing on Ca. Like I said the Feds are not happy and the governor won't be happy unless he does what the president & convict felon ask him to do. Trump going to get what he want done here in Ca. you can bet on it.
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You need
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Day 5 tomorrow only 95 day to go for 100 day mark :lol:
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Governor nut sack :lol: :lol:
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jiggin4bass wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:16 pm Day 5 tomorrow only 95 day to go for 100 day mark :lol:
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We have been broke for 4 years
What makes you think we are going to get even more broke than broke ? I’m all ears
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I m not sure about that either. We shall see how it plays out. The democrats are getting what they asked for. You don’t think they attacked him like no other and continue to do so?
I don’t agree with what he is doing all the time nor is it just. But I understand where it’s coming from
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JVGondal wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:07 am I m not sure about that either. We shall see how it plays out. The democrats are getting what they asked for. You don’t think they attacked him like no other and continue to do so?
I don’t agree with what he is doing all the time nor is it just. But I understand where it’s coming from
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Who is he going after and prosecute?
It was him in lawsuits

I can tell you a 20’ stick of 2” copper is 500 dollars for about the last 3 years
The suppliers are telling us it may increase more!

That was the joke about build back better when you couldn’t afford a 2x4 to build anything

Honesty as far as inflation Im not convinced it matters who is president
I sure hope it gets better and prices drop not just increase slower

The new MAGA hat is black and says TESLA. 🤣🤣🤣
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JVGondal wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:40 pm Who is he going after and prosecute?
It was him in lawsuits

I can tell you a 20’ stick of 2” copper is 500 dollars for about the last 3 years
The suppliers are telling us it may increase more!

That was the joke about build back better when you couldn’t afford a 2x4 to build anything

Honesty as far as inflation Im not convinced it matters who is president
I sure hope it gets better and prices drop not just increase slower

The new MAGA hat is black and says TESLA. 🤣🤣🤣
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Even you are hating on Musk? Why
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:43 am Even you are hating on Musk? Why
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You mean space X?
At least they got their money before ever being invoked with politics. The rest of the swamp got rich off a 125,000 salary

How can anyone argue against less government waste of our tax dollars?
I wish Trump would increase social security benefits to those on it
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:00 pm You mean space X?
At least they got their money before ever being invoked with politics. The rest of the swamp got rich off a 125,000 salary

How can anyone argue against less government waste of our tax dollars?
I wish Trump would increase social security benefits to those on it
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I don’t understand how social security can go broke
The people who are paying into it right now are funding the people drawing from social security

Unless everyone stops working how can it go broke?
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:34 pm I don’t understand how social security can go broke
The people who are paying into it right now are funding the people drawing from social security

Unless everyone stops working how can it go broke?
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:D Nothing would surprise me now

Now they might shut down the government
But against cuts ?
My friend is complaining trump is cutting forest department up where he camps and might not be open this summer
I said remember when oboma shut down the government? All the forest camp grounds were closed

It was the republicans fault back then when tge president was a democrat
Now the role is reversed and still the republicans fault
Covid closed camping too.
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Yeh
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Seems like it’s the same **** no matter who pretty much
What has actually changed for us? I know it’s early
Prices go up. We get taxed. Same o same o
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:48 pm Seems like it’s the same **** no matter who pretty much
What has actually changed for us? I know it’s early
Prices go up. We get taxed. Same o same o
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Talk about cutting social security phone service is bull
That would be dumb. Maddcow says Elon wants to cut phone service making it difficult for elder people to receive Benifit services

At first that enraged me. Then I realized how ridiculous that sounds.
Social security administration came out and said that it was incorrect
Why would anyone go about cutting social security in that way if it were their intention ?
If phone service were disconnected nearly everyone who needed help would get it from their kids or the young guy next door
It would not even be effective
They are going to try and tell me someone as intelligent as Elon would try that ?
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Have you listened to the new Gavin Newsom podcast
Where he talks to conservatives? If not check it out
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JVGondal wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:08 am Talk about cutting social security phone service is bull
That would be dumb. Maddcow says Elon wants to cut phone service making it difficult for elder people to receive Benifit services

At first that enraged me. Then I realized how ridiculous that sounds.
Social security administration came out and said that it was incorrect
Why would anyone go about cutting social security in that way if it were their intention ?
If phone service were disconnected nearly everyone who needed help would get it from their kids or the young guy next door
It would not even be effective
They are going to try and tell me someone as intelligent as Elon would try that ?
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Isn’t that how it is?
In my trade I can’t always go home on time either
If I screw up the and the chiller is down I work until the building has cooling restored.
Weathers it’s something I did or if it’s a delay in parts. Often it’s an access issue or the building chief engineers convince
Sometimes it’s an evening Christmas play in a schools auditorium that needs heat that night
Many times I’m just getting home when the emergency call comes in
I have no compassion for the lazy unwilling won’t fit my schedule youth
No one is forcing me to work at my place of employment
I worked in manufacturing operating machinery
I worked day shift. The plant operated 24 hours a day
If my relief for swing shift called off sick I worked a double unwilling
Everyday at 330 pm I would find out if I were forced to work a double shift
If the machine stops the company looses big money
Money that feeds my kids
What is the solution? Have an employee on standby 24 7 to be called in on a moments notice?

Both of these jobs are union


You need a better argument

Elon is providing jobs for many so they can support a family
Look what happen to the old GM plant in Fremont
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Beats me. Tesla might be a sucky place to work
Not disagreeing there because I don’t know


I know I’m about to go fishing !
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JVGondal wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 12:53 pm Beats me. Tesla might be a sucky place to work
Not disagreeing there because I don’t know


I know I’m about to go fishing !
Cool let us know how the bite is!
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Not bashing Tesla or any specific workers
Just saying it’s tough to. Find good help these days
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JVGondal wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:48 pm Not bashing Tesla or any specific workers
Just saying it’s tough to. Find good help these days
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I can no longer continue this conversation with someone whose thinking and memory are clearly deteriorating. The arguments are incoherent, the reasoning is failing, and it’s painfully obvious that meaningful dialogue is impossible. Please seek mental health attention.
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