D.T. good for the U.S.A.?

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They are doing what we voted for. Remove DEI
From our government.
Iam I reading that article wrong?

Honestly Monte I believe we only know and believe what they tell us
I could be completely wrong with my view as could you
Some how I think we are probably both 50% right and wrong
Really. What the hell do I know? Stuff I hear on the news and read? I’m not there to see what really happens. We get half truths all the time
They are constantly trying to tell us things to raise our eyebrow
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I’m
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I’m not for DEI
Are they removing accomplishments from people of color or is that just what they want us to think?
How can anyone agree with that.

I’m all about equal rights and opportunity
I’m against anything that is granted or handed out by color. We need to be color blind

Clearly the left is not that. Biden announced he would select a VP from a pool of African American females
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JVGondal wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:55 am I’m not for DEI
Are they removing accomplishments from people of color or is that just what they want us to think?
How can anyone agree with that.

I’m all about equal rights and opportunity
I’m against anything that is granted or handed out by color. We need to be color blind

Clearly the left is not that. Biden announced he would select a VP from a pool of African American females
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Now speeding tickets are based on your income

Another great democrat idea
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JVGondal wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:36 pm Now speeding tickets are based on your income

Another great democrat idea
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What is he up to now?
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:15 am What is he up to
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I hope not. You mean it will be 2008 all over again?

Don’t know anything about tariffs And the effect
All I know is sone are saying it will be good for us and others say doom
Guess I will just hold on for the ride agsin
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San Jose Ca proposal. Fee for service
They want 450 dollars when we call 911
They say insurance will cover this cost.
That way they can blame the insurance companies

Who pays for the insurance
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:31 am I hope not. You mean it will be 2008 all over again?

Don’t know anything about tariffs And the effect
All I know is sone are saying it will be good for us and others say doom
Guess I will just hold on for the ride agsin
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He has so far:
1. initiated massive layoffs in government agencies,
2. put agriculture in jeopardy by shrinking export sources - particularly China - due to higher retaliatory tariffs
3. compromised a military operation by broadcasting it to unsecure sources
4. defunded the National Weather service
5. suggested he will run another term in violation of the Constitution
6. issued a series of executive orders aimed at prominent law firms, alleging unethical conduct and imposing severe sanctions. These actions included revoking security clearances, terminating government contracts, and restricting access to federal buildings.
7. unlawfully extends presidential control over independent agencies, particularly the Federal Election Commission (FEC), SEC, FTC, etc. thereby undermining their mandated independence from political control
8. allowed Musk’s access to government data and payment systems containing Americans’ sensitive personal data
9. halting nearly all federal grants, including those funding public health, education, small businesses, and infrastructure projects. This caused deep disruptions across nearly every sector of the economy—temporarily stalling funding for everything from infrastructure projects to lifesaving medical research
10. Trump issued an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship for children of non-citizens, a direct violation of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution
11. sent mass emails encouraging federal workers to resign, with thinly veiled threats of termination. These emails, sent to approximately two million federal employees, warned of impending job cuts and reductions in benefits, creating a climate of fear and uncertainty. 77,000 accepted buyouts.
12. terminated tens of thousands of probationary employees not giving a d* what the definition of probationary means when it comes to federal service
13. rolled back healthcare regulations in favor of insurance companies allowing them to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions and impose lifetime coverage limits
14. rescinded Executive Order 14087, which was designed to lower prescription drug costs for Medicare and Medicaid recipients
15. executive Order to Dismantle the Department of Education and reduced funding for Pell Grants and other federal student aid programs, making it harder for low-income students to afford higher education.
16. will gut FEMA thereby forcing disaster relief to be a state responsibility
17. issued sweeping rollbacks to environmental protections, weakening regulations on air and water quality, allowing increased industrial pollution, and reversing emissions standards for power plants and vehicles.
18. withdrew the United States from the Paris Climate Agreement, reversing years of progress on global climate commitments
19. potentially started a trade war via tariff retaliation with most countries - including allies. Nations may band together to form a protective bloc to deal with Trumps retaliatory tariffs.
20. changed (in his mind) the name of the Gulf of Mexico
21. Put JFK Jr. in charge of the Dept. of Health, which Musk fired 10,000 people, many of which have to be rehired. DOGE is far from doing more harm than good, firing more than the 7000 which included Soc. Sec.
22. Inflation of almost everything Americans buy will cost more - INCLUDING MY COLUMBIAN COFFEE!! Globalization means cheaper prices for many reasons; stomp it out and it's every country for themselves. His pipe dreams of opening more factories in the U.S. is not only far-reaching but assumes thousands of jobs will be created regardless of AI and automated production.
23. Unemployment will rise due to stagflation, recession and businesses downsizing or closing due to the tariff war now started. i.e. Few cars bought = layoffs at American plants.
24. The stock market crash you already know about, losing over a trillion - you heard me - a trillion in value.
25. While JFK Jr attended a ceremony for fallen soldiers, Trump was at a fund raiser. He was golfing the day of the Wall Street crash that have many retirement funds reeling.

Those who trust Trump to MAGA after what he has said and done thus far such as,
“I’m not concerned. We (yeah right!) may have short-term a little pain and people understand that.”,
may eventually wake up to the simple fact that he could care less about average Americans and is a national disgrace. He is in a position he's dreamed of all his life: doing whatever he wants to whoever he wants while waving a middle finger.

BTW, the above leaves out a lot not included.
ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES! Many already have resulting in pain and insecurity for thousands with nothing to show for it.

Left vs Right my a**!
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Don’t
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monte300 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:34 am Don’t forget he’s alienated pretty much every US ally and STILL has a man crush on Putin. Wonder why no tariffs against Russia, North Korea and Belarus? :shock:
How did I forget THAT! plus allowing Russia to still bomb civilians in Ukraine via drones all because Zelensky didn't kiss his a**.
I can't imagine why no tariffs considering that the U.S. buys little from Russia nor does Russia buy near as much from the U.S. as our trading partners.

I guess dictators can be attracted to one another....
putin.jpg
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Oh, and I forgot his promise to lower the price of eggs.
In January and February 2025, the U.S. imported more than 1.6 million dozen consumer-grade chicken eggs, according to USDA data. With new tariffs hitting those imports, we're looking at a potential price boomerang effect
Products from Turkey and South Korea will face new tariffs of 10 percent and 26 percent, respectively, undermining the cost advantage of importing eggs from those markets.


Guess eggs will still cost +$3/ dox. though down from $7.
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IMO
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monte300 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:27 pm IMO most of the otherwise intelligent Trumpers I know hate the democrats so much they are willing to overlook the shady unconstitutional stuff he pulls, I’m not and never will. The rest are clueless cultists. It’s like congress no longer exists. I don’t think one male GOP member is sporting a pair of testicles
You described supporters who believe everything he says, never taking him to task for all the damage done. Hitler had the same type of supporters and many fanatics (the SS) that would die for him and the fatherland rather than admit they were duped with fiery speeches and the promise that their country would lead the world while exterminating the dregs of society (Jews, immigrants) and anyone else not considered Ayrian. (Note: Hitler did serve during WW2 unlike someone we know that got a deferment for heel spurs - you know, the gold-plated ones worn for riding horses].)

I read today that job losses have already begun, with several US businesses announcing they are laying off workers as a result of the tariffs. Liberation from one's job is more accurate than MAGA'S definition of the word according to Trump, that was supposed to create good paying jobs now and in the future. Layoffs are happening in companies in Mexico and Canada that have business ties in the U.S., some which produce critical parts for American made products.

A democracy stops being a democracy when one individual is not stopped per the separation of powers stated in the constitution. Citizens vulnerable to his bad actions, supported by the majority of sheep in Congress, unwilling to do the job of oversight and opposition, pay the ultimate price. The pursuit of happiness be damned!

While dumb & dumber reck the economy and peoples' lives, we must grin & bear-it.
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You’re
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The US economy is considered to be entering “continuous stagflation”, which is defined as continued inflation with very low growth and higher unemployment.
The numbers don't lie...

John Oliver made the comment:
Trump has shot the economy in the dick which won't rise any time soon.
:lol:
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The economy was awesome with Biden?
Are you guys just trolling?
Remember gas prices under Trump then came Biden?
Remember interest rates?


You guys blind hatred for Trump and Elon is despicable
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This post is such an example of living through hate. I am disgusted and offended by the efforts you have gone to disparage both sides of the political spectrum. I dont speak out politcally and won't express my affiliation. I am removing myself from Western Bass in protest to your rants.

Good bye WB
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JVGondal wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:43 am The economy was awesome with Biden?
Are you guys just trolling?
Remember gas prices under Trump then came Biden?
Remember interest rates?


You guys blind hatred for Trump and Elon is despicable
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Ok Monte. Sorry to offend you. I will go to the next cult meeting now
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JVGondal wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 10:43 am Ok Monte. Sorry to offend you. I will go to the next cult meeting now
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It’s down Certainly not the first time
Things are happening to try and bring back the American industrial complex. Do you remember what that is ? Do you care ?

Democrats ruin everything. Look at California
Newscum has companies leaving CA as fast as they can run.
Do to Ca liberal policies we have high crime high taxes on property. Luxury tax on a small boat
Crazy high insurance cost. High tolls on the bridges
High cost on everything dam thing
But let’s not bring any of that up. It’s all Trumps fault
Without jobs no one can afford your cheap imported junk including nose rings and skirts for men
Maybe Trump can bring jobs back like he is trying so desperately to do
We have a brave strong president fighting for our country for once and you are angry
Instead of a real patriot you prefer a feminist for president
You know damn well America has been sold out and it’s about time someone started to fight for us
Until you come to your senses just a little bit I’m done with your nonsense
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When
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Argument against what? Your 401k? It goes down and it goes up.
Trump is doing a great job. I am arguing that he is fighting to bring back manufacturing to America
Will it work right away or at all? I don’t know
Neither do you. But because he is trying to help the country you should stop the hate and hope it works

The alternative was closing down everything for what amounted to a cold. Using emergency power to say who could and could not have a job!!!!
The communist left is out of business for the moment
You still have newscum but he’s going down too
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Defund NPR!
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Trump seeks an isolationist posture—ending U.S. involvement in overseas conflicts (Ukraine, Gaza) without clear peace plans, proposing U.S. governance of Gaza with Palestinian resettlement, and maintaining a hard line on China—while boosting defense spending and Space Force modernization

His agenda freezes or rescinds climate‑related regulations, dismantles Inflation Reduction Act levies, expands domestic oil and gas production, and prioritizes U.S. energy independence over Paris Accord commitments

Trump vows to create “the largest mass deportation program in history,” building huge detention facilities, deploying the National Guard and domestic police, and invoking the Alien Enemies Act to expel suspected cartel or gang members without court hearings


Trump proposes to make permanent his 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, lower the corporate rate further to 15%, and exempt earned tips, Social Security wages, and overtime pay from income tax

He plans a 10–20 percent tariff on all U.S. imports and a 60 percent levy on Chinese goods, while using existing emergency‑powers authority to enforce them—and eyeing a hardline review of the USMCA trade deal
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I’m
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The problem is you believe everything the libtard media tells you
Turn off the view NPR. MSNBC
Listen to what the actual politicians are saying
Look at what they are doing. Look at the results
I recall the pelosi and crew investing in electric car stock just before The old racist puppet president decided to force electric vehicles on the government as part of the green new scam

Your only argument is Trump lies? If that’s true he’s been sticking to the same lies since Oprah in the 80s. You might be hard pressed to find and instance where he said somthing different
A liar has to make up new lies to cover up the old lies like the Biden bros who change position on every turn.
Trump is the most transparent president we ever had
You keep on believing the angry ugly women on the view and the communist left NPR.
That’s on you to be so ignorant
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If you like jobs someone is a billionaire

TARRIFFS ARE HITTING HARD. YOU KNOW WHAT THOUGH? THAT DOES NOT IMPACT AMERICAN MADE !!!
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Now newsom is blaming Trump for cutting Medicare
They claim he cut the money
Zero dollars have been cut. He’s going after the waste fraud and abuse
All those take away from people who deserve benefits

The real problem is newsom gave 10 billion dollars of medical to illegal immigrants 2 years ago
He tried to get federal government to pay it back

Instead of telling us that they claim Trump federal spending cuts.
These are cuts to waste fraud and abuse
Newsom refused to take care of his people first
We who paid into it for many years
Because of your support to these liberals we have a mess here
Thanks monte
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JVGondal wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:16 am Now newsom is blaming Trump for cutting Medicare
They claim he cut the money
Zero dollars have been cut. He’s going after the waste fraud and abuse
All those take away from people who deserve benefits

The real problem is newsom gave 10 billion dollars of medical to illegal immigrants 2 years ago
He tried to get federal government to pay it back

Instead of telling us that they claim Trump federal spending cuts.
These are cuts to waste fraud and abuse
Newsom refused to take care of his people first
We who paid into it for many years
Because of your support to these liberals we have a mess here
Thanks monte
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Exactly
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Yes I’m sure you know what’s best.
Hopefully we get a socialist communist Bernie sanders next time
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:00 am Yes I’m sure you know what’s best.
Hopefully we get a socialist communist Bernie sanders next time
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Wow. That’s unbelievable
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JVGondal wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:56 pm Wow. That’s unbelievable
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J.V. - what is your opinion of Marjorie Taylor-Greene, brilliant just like Trump?
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I don’t know enough about her to have an opinion
Seems like a bitch to me
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Ok Monte. Instead of us just going at it

Here are Trumps positions
What do you disagree with ? What’s to not like ?



Advocates for strict immigration enforcement, including deportation of undocumented immigrants.
Opposes sanctuary cities.
Calls for merit-based legal immigration and limits on asylum claims


Supports lower taxes, especially for corporations and high-income earners (e.g., 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act).
Favors deregulation to stimulate business growth.
Promotes tariffs to protect American manufacturing and reduce trade deficits, especially with China.

America First
doctrine—prioritizing U.S. interests over global alliances.
Criticized NATO allies for not paying their “fair share.”
Took a confrontational stance toward China, particularly on trade.
Advocated withdrawing U.S. troops from conflicts overseas.


Strongly opposed the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare).
Did not produce a full replacement plan but supported expanding short-term insurance plans and health savings accounts.

Strong supporter of the Second Amendment.
Opposed most new gun control laws.
At times expressed openness to background checks but did not push for significant reform.

Withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Climate Agreement.
Rolled back many environmental regulations.
Supported fossil fuel development (oil, gas, coal).

Strongly backs police and “law and order” policies.
Opposed movements to defund police departments.
Supported federal crackdowns on violent protests.

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Strong supporter of free speech, especially on social media, though he’s been banned/suspended from some platforms at times
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