Punker Paint Issue?

[SethB]

How is the paint holding up on your Lunker punker? I have read about the paint failing on a few baits . Just wondering how the paint is doin' on your baits?

[Mike]

I havnt had any problems. If you do, just contact Black Dog on the link above and I'm sure they will take of it for you.

[Sean Graf]

I sure hope you guys don't expect the paint to last forever, do you?

Wear & tear happens

[DeltaDan]

My Punker and Cracker are almost as good as new !


The Punker has a small piece missing from the back from when I over shot it and it crashed onto the rocks. Some minimal hook markings ........ But I modified and invereted them ~~ So that is all on me - With some good results !!


The Cracker is still as it has been in hook set-up and use. No marings on it from any stripers even.


I do like the hooks on the Cracker better than the Punker as stock -- But the Punker gets even more milage/submersion/action with a pair of Dykes, Split Ring Pliers, Creativity and testing for your rod/line application. (I even removed a hook on the Jr. from the Punker. )


Awesome Baits -- and 1 heck of a QUALITY Product.

[SethB]

I do not at all expect the paint to last forever. I do however expect it to stay on the bait for more than a few times in the water. I'm glad to hear your baits are doing well. maybie it was just an issue with a few baits and not a problem with all of them. I have been fishing wood plugs for a few years now and have some pretty beat up M.S.Slammers (with lots of paint on them still.) I know what to expect when it comes to hook rash and NORMAL wear and tear. I don't have a problem with the bait and I am not knocking Blackdog. I love the bait and plan to buy another when this on wears out.

[Cooch]

How is the paint holding up on your Lunker punker? I have read about the paint failing on a few baits . Just wondering how the paint is doin' on your baits?

The beauty in Black Dog's Punker bait, is that very thick, clear coated finish put on over the paint job. It is the hardest clear coat finish I have seen on any bait I've ever owned. My Punker is over a year old, I can not even begin to count or recall the number of black bass I've caught on it between 3-9 pounds this past spring and summer. I probably caught well over thirty stripers, over 15 pounds, in the month of September alone before I decided I did not want to chance losing my bait. The paint job is completely intact. And unless you've hit a rock, dock, boat, cowling, trolling motor or bounced it off the hard head of yer dropshotting back seater, I can't imagine them failing otherwise.

There are some scuff marks on both sides, created from the swinging and rubbing of the front hook, of the bait. Yet it is a long way from wearing off that clear coat finish to where it's going to start chipping or wearing down to the paint. That Clear Coat, is the best!

Here's mine I just shot for ya ta see:
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[Otay Michael]

How is the paint holding up on your Lunker punker? I have read about the paint failing on a few baits . Just wondering how the paint is doin' on your baits?

The beauty in Black Dog's Punker bait, is that very thick, clear coated finish put on over the paint job. It is the hardest clear coat finish I have seen on any bait I've ever owned. My Punker is over a year old, I can not even begin to count or recall the number of black bass I've caught on it between 3-9 pounds this past spring and summer. I probably caught well over thirty stripers, over 15 pounds, in the month of September alone before I decided I did not want to chance losing my bait. The paint job is completely intact. And unless you've hit a rock, dock, boat, cowling, trolling motor or bounced it off the hard head of yer dropshotting back seater, I can't imagine them failing otherwise.

There are some scuff marks on both sides, created from the swinging and rubbing of the front hook, of the bait. Yet it is a long way from wearing off that clear coat finish to where it's going to start chipping or wearing down to the paint. That Clear Coat, is the best!

Here's mine I just shot for ya ta see:
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What Cooch said.

[NG]

Yes and No. Cooch is 100% right but it really depends on which Punker you are talking about and it makes a big difference.

I believe Cooch is talking about a Limited, "Custom" painted punker by Jeremy Anderson. In that case, yes, the clear coat is one of the hardest I've seen too and I love my custom punkers. That is why I am only buying custom ones in the future. The paint will last the lifetime of the bait.

The stock punker's clear coat does not seem as tough, maybe it's changed now. I've had 3 stock ones and there is a noticable difference and I'm sure what you've read about is talking about a stock punker. What I've done is put on one coat of Devon 2 Ton epoxy, slow cure formula, over the whole lure and now my stock punkers are just as tough as the custom ones I have.

The great thing is that Black Dog Baits is a great company and takes care of their customers. They replaced one of my stock punkers that had a "soft" clear coat, this was before I started using the epoxy treatment.

[Cooch]

Excellent tip NG!!!!!!!!!!!

[GregD]

What I've done is put on one coat of Devon 2 Ton epoxy, slow cure formula, over the whole lure and now my stock punkers are just as tough as the custom ones I have.

Yeah, thanks for the tip NG. I've got a Punker on order so I'll probably try to find some of the Devon 2 Ton so I can give it the extra coating when it comes in.

Thanks,

[nipples]

or bounced it off the hard head of yer dropshotting back seater

G-Man's crash helmet is mighty tough on lure finishes... But that's no reason to call him a "dropshotting back seater"... LOL

[Duckman]

How does the extra weight of the epoxy affect the action of the bait?

[Bon]

NG, unfortunately, I had a rock jump in front of my Punker and have a good section of paint on the belly chipped off. I have had it painted, but it sounds like I need to apply a coating of the Devon 2 Ton. Where can I get some of this stuff??

[Slippy]

to me its like a crank bait that you catch alot of fish on, its all beat up paint missing but i would never imagine repainting it. I think the beat up ones are beat up for a reason.

[NG]

Just a little more information on the Devon epoxy so that you don't run into any problems when you coat yours:
1. Make sure you use the slow cure (30 minute or 40 minute, I forgot) version of the Devon 2 Ton. The 30 minute is clear and will dry clear and will not yellow. The 5 minute version is yellowish and will yellow over time. I got the Devon at Walmart for around $2 for about a 4 oz syringe package.
2. The package says the epoxy will set in about 30 minutes but that does not mean you have 30 minutes to apply (work with) the epoxy before it gets too stiff to spread, you really only have about 2 minutes to appy and then maybe another minute to really spread it out evenly on the lure. In the beginning I only coated either the top half of the punker one day and then the bottom half a few days later. Once you get the hang of it, you can do a whole big lure at one time instead of in parts, smaller lures are not a problem.
These are the steps, I followed:
1. Take off all hooks and split rings.
2. Mix the epoxy per instructions: don't mix too much (half oz or less) and for too long; mix well for about 1 minute in small container then pour out on some foil, etc.
3. With hobby brush, apply quickly in general dabs over the area you want to cover (half lure or up to whole lure if you can work quickly). Then use brush to spread the epoxy evenly over entire area you going to do; making sure not to miss any spots in the area and make sure to get around all screw eyes. Use brush to also remove excess epoxy at this time, if you had dabbed too much in the first place. You don't need a super thick coat, just a complete thin coat is fine. This stuff is strong. You only have about 2-3 minutes to do this step before the epoxy starts getting kind of stiff.
4. Alternate hanging the bait from the nose or tail every 10-15 minutes for the first hour or so. I do this using bent paper clips at each end to hang the bait.
5. Then leave alone. After about 8-12 hours your bait is done. This will provide a perfectly level, smooth, factory like coat on the lure.

One thin coat will not affect the lure's action at all. On baits with a rattle, it will deaden the sound a bit or on small lures (LC jerkbaits, etc), it might affect action. The only affect on your punker will be that it will now last a very long time.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

[Cooch]

On baits with a rattle, it will deaden the sound a bit or on small lures (LC jerkbaits, etc), it might affect action. The only affect on your punker will be that it will now last a very long time.

I can atest to this, yer LC Staycees will sink arse end first with too much of this stuff!

[SethB]

Hey, NG sounds like you know what your talking about.
That product was also what Blackdog Bait Co reccomends for any repairs. Thank you for your help. Any Idea who might carrie it besides wal-mart. No wal-mart in my area.

[biteme]

Good info here. my 6IN needs some work. Is blackdog every going to come out with that bass color?

[Mike]

They do release a few custon Baby Bass from time to time you just have to be quick for they dont last long! Check their web site for a list of dealers and call them. They might be able to hold one for you.

[bruizer343]

Black Dog Rules.......

go paint you fence.

[biteme]

They do release a few custon Baby Bass from time to time you just have to be quick for they dont last long! Check their web site for a list of dealers and call them. They might be able to hold one for you.

Cool I just got one on ebay. Odds are its a bit more but at 65.00 but I didnt really have to hunt for it.

[Mike]

Nice!

[bruizer343]

Nice!

I have bait arrousal

[miklanderson]

Let me start by saying that I think the lunker punkers and shellcrackers are the some of the best topwater baits around as far as big fish go...These lures flat out catch big fish. I've had trouble with the paint too. I have already sent in 1 lunker punker that had the paint break off of the entire bottom of the lure. I only used it on a couple of trips and caught 2 fish on it. The 2 fish were a 20+ pound striper and a 10+ largemouth so the lure definitely works. BD baits were great to work with and replaced this lure with no problem. The replacement punker has only been used 1 time and now has a small piece of paint broken off of it on the bottom. I only fish these lures in open water and have hit nothing with them.

I also have a sinking shellcracker that is cracked right down the middle on the back end. This one was allowed to sink to the bottom while deadsticking it at Clear Lake the 2nd time I used it. I wont ask for a replacement on this one since I guess it was my fault for letting it sink but at 60 bucks a pop I probably wont be buying another.

I didn't know about the 2 ton epoxy. I'll have to try it out and see how it works.

Sean...Wear and tear happens but it shouldn't happen on a 60 dollar lure after 1 or 2 trips on the water. I'm not talking about a few little scratches or small chips in the clear coat. That's to be expected. On the LP the paint on the entire bottom of the lure delaminated and broke off and exposed the wood underneath. The shellcracker is about to do the same thing if thrown anymore.

[RipnRog]

There is a better epoxy that is 500 times hbetter that the two ton.... it is available at tap plastics and it is called ultra glow. The use this stuff to seal carbon fiber. it is without a doubt the best tstuff available and you can get the smaller bottles for around 6 bucks.... this stuff has a longer set up period than the two ton but it does not chip like the two ton..... the two ton will still chip when you hit a rock.....


To apply the ultra glow is simple just brush it on evenly..... the problem is you will need a something that rotates at the speen of one full rotation per minute... Try a BBQ roticerie motor... that is what I use.

One application of this stuff is all you will evr need and it does not chip ever.......

[biteme]

Good tips in here. Ill have to fix last years LP.