SENKO'S ON THE DELTA ?

[WANNA HOOK BIGGIN'S]

What is the best way to fish the senko this time of year ? T-rigged with a 1/4oz or 3/16oz or weightless ? What about wacky ? 5", 6", or 7" ? Dark colors ?

WHB

[L Dub]

Yup!

[Skeeterman]

6 & 7'' weightless blk/blu flake green/red flake or green/blk flake.Try both wacky or texas the fish will let you know what they want.

[Saechao]

now... 6"... wacky it

good luck

[big_limits]

Yup!

L Dub is definitley correct

[acm95301]

3",4",5",6",7"

brown with purple fleck
purple
pearl with gold fleck
watermeon with red flake

texas, carolina, wacky....and in more open water split shot( over rip rap)

all good.

[jimmy87]

they are all liars. Senkos do not catch fish in the delta or on any other body of water. Fish hate em.

[brambo0311]

The only wrong thing to do with a senko, is not throw it.

[Andy Giannini]

Senkos require years of practice to learn the proper presentations.

There are many different ways, of hooking up with them, but that is almost another thread, or small article.

Best bet is just to hire a guide for the day, and just get a good one day Senko crash course under your belt.

Thats what I did.

A.G.

(It also doesn't hurt to have a technique specific rod like a "Senko" rod either.)

[Nitro5150]

i'm flipping a 6", tossing a 5" wacky, and power dropshotting a 4". Nah, they don't work!

[big_limits]

And it doesn't work at all to pitch em slightly up current from ur target and let the current drift em into ur target either

[L Dub]

and never ever throw them in tulles (with braided line)

[bassnbrian]

Ya right, senko's take experience! It's the dumbest bait there is. In the Delta you can throw any color, any hook, any size, let it sink, smoke a cigarette , eat a sandwich, then set,,, FISH ON!!!! It makes anyone a good fisherman, that's why I hate it, it takes the skill out of fishing..Learn to fish by not throwing a Senko...[/quote]

[big_limits]

Ya right, senko's take experience! It's the dumbest bait there is. In the Delta you can throw any color, any hook, any size, let it sink, smoke a cigarette , eat a sandwich, then set,,, FISH ON!!!! It makes anyone a good fisherman, that's why I hate it, it takes the skill out of fishing..Learn to fish by not throwing a Senko...

[bassnbrian]

Gota laugh good one. But grow a pair and elaborate???

[L Dub]

Here's a good question about senkos: How fast does it fall in the water when rigged weightless? I've been applying the 1 ft per sec rule but I don't think that's necessarily true.

[bassnbrian]

Depends on size and water temp= 7inch is faster, about 1ft a sec. 5" about 1/2' a sec.

[acm95301]

"And it doesn't work at all to pitch em slightly up current from ur target and let the current drift em into ur target either "

You guys are seriously funny sometimes.

With regards to rate of fall I think that its variable...It seems like for the first 7ft or so it might be 1ft per second, but that mid water column its slow considerably. I believe it also completely suspends once its a few inches off bottom, unless weighted. temprature and current may be affecting this, and probably isn't true frequently.

[Andy Giannini]

The fall depends on what type of line, and how much line is out, sinking or creating drag, through the water.

Wind can also be a factor, as well as the size of the bait, salinity of the water, the barometric pressure, coupled with the moon's gravitational pull.

Whoops, forgot current. Damn, and hook size.

Also bait color, might give different impressions about how fast its sinking to the naked eye. Not on a stopwatch mind you.



A.G.

(By the way, that is a six pound Senko fish in my avatar, and I caught his twin a moment later.)

[Jim Conlow Sr.]

It depends on how it is rigged, wacky or texas, size of hook and whether it is texas rigged in the head or the tail. I start all of my senkos texas hooks in the fat end or head. when that gets ripped I rig the hook in the skinny end. when that wears out I use it for wacky style. If I dont lose it by then I either reglue the rips or slice it lengthwise and turn it into drop shot bait for spots.

My question is what the hell difference does it make whether it simks 10 inches a second or 15 inches..

[Andy Giannini]

I don't know what the difference is.

I am just trying to overcomplicate an answer that at first seems simplistic. You can add lots of different factors to give a person more weird things to think about on the water, while the Senko is sinking.

Most of the time, I only think about fall rates if I am not getting bit.

Then I might want to fall faster or something else.

I can remember when GYB introduced a special Pro model slow sink Senko? Still have some somewhere.

I don't believe senkos can majically hover just off the bottom, like a previous poster mentioned. Unless the earth's gravitational pull seems to diminish for some reason just off the bottom, and only with Senkos.



a.G.

[L Dub]

Thanks for the answers. I wanted to know how long I should be waiting before recasting...

I also kinda thought they 'floated' and I can't really feel them or know if its caught on weeds or what not.

[Wipn_bass24_7]

ppl act as if senkos are a magic bait. theyre not. i've had days where they wanted more of a slender bait like a straight tail robo or more bulky like a sweet beaver. they do not work all the time, but do have a high percentage of getting bites.

[acm95301]

I don't believe floating is magic. Alot of baits suspend in the water column. In hydrodynamics of river flows, one of the layers is called the suspended load....dirt ,leaves, branches etc. Maybe it eventually sinks, but What I was implying was that as the senko got deeper it seemed to need more to hold it down.

I don't believe senkos can majically hover just off the bottom, like a previous poster mentioned. Unless the earth's gravitational pull seems to diminish for some reason just off the bottom, and only with Senkos.



a.G.

[Andy Giannini]

OK, how about this guess.

If the senko doesn't hit the bottom, maybe a fish ate it?

I was just having fun with the thread.

Especially with the Senkos because they are fished weightless most often, a guy has to really pay attention. Bait awareness, or just maintain what your bait is doing at all times. There are a lot of bites that don't go "Bang" on your rod tip. If you think its weeds, or just can't figure out what is going on, its probably a fish. As soon as the question mark pops up on my heads up display, pull the trigger.

When they first started to get real popular, guys were complaining because the fish would just eat them all the down. Gullet hooked fish, and what to do about it were the hot topics along with functional fish hook removers. Guys were not feeling the bites, or just plain distracted while fishing them.

Anyway, I am checking out on the Senko thread. Gotta do stuff.

Good fishing to you,

A.G.