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A vote for Hillary or Obama?

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Two Different Versions! Two Different Morals!

REPUBLICAN VERSION:
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer
long,
building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays
the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!
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LIBERAL VERSION:
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his
house and laying up supplies for the
winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays
the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and
demands
to know why the ant should be allowed
to be warm and well fed while others
are cold and starving.

CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering
grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a
table
filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this po or grasshopper
is
allowed to suffer so?

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries
when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.'


Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the
news stations film the group singing, 'We shall overcome.' Jesse then has
the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake.

Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King that
the
ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an
immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act
retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs
and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is
confiscated by the government.

Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation
suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal

judges that Bill Clinton appointed from a list of single-parent welfare
recipients.

The ant loses the case.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the

ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be
the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it.

The ant has disappeared in the snow.

The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house,
now
abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once
peaceful neighborhood.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be careful how you vote in 2008
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Re: A vote for Hillary or Obama?

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EITHER would be better than "Little Bush". He's about to leave the county in the same shape it was in when poppa left in 1993. Can you spell "RECESSION"!! :cry: :cry:
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Re: A vote for Hillary or Obama?

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Can someone explain what a Recession is – how about you Coral 96 – come on and teach us something?
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Marty wrote:Can someone explain what a Recession is
The simplest definition of a recession is when there is too little money in the system; the opposite situation is inflation, where you have too much money in the system and people start raising prices because of that. There are all kinds of gummint fixes (we don't really have a "free market") but nobody will be satisfied with any solution...
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Re: A vote for Hillary or Obama?

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a recession is a decline in a country's gross domestic product or, negative real economic growth, for two or more successive quarters of a year.

The sad part about this entire election is that the main topic is Iraq and Health care, not the economic health of the nation.

Last election (even sadder) the platform was built around "gay marriage"

Our country has been run the past 7+ years by scare tactics and keeping us all in fear of the dreaded "terrorists". We've been scammed by the likes of guys like Rumsfield, Chenney, Wolfowitz and to a lesser degree the puppet Bush.

Heres one Marty, why don't YOU point out ALL of the major accomplishments the republicans have brought us over the past 7+ years? Tell us all how were so much better off?

And to quote LA Steel, does any of it really matter when:

"It is common knowledge that Yale has produced the last three consecutive presidents. Also that Yale graduates (Skull and Bones) were the founders of the CIA, and have been the directors of every important U.S Government agency since the early 1940's. Prior to that time Harvard produced the majority of presidential candidates. The last Harvard graduate to become president was John F. Kennedy. G.W Bush received his MBA from Harvard , but he graduated by the seat of his pants, and his father's influence. His real loyalties were with Yale; where he had the inherited honor of being the President of the Skull and Bones fraternity, a position once held by his father, and grandfather. The last Harvard graduates who became presidential and vice presidential candidates were Ralph Nader, and his running mate Winona LaDuke, in the 2000 presidential elections. They ran as Independents; both were too liberal, and too non elitist to be a part of the Democratic Party. They wanted nothing to do with the Democratic Party. Ralph Nader was of Lebanese decent, and Winona LaDuke was an American Indian, both liberal activists; who made serious attacks against the "tweedle dee, tweedle dum" Republican and Democratic candidates. Nader and LaDuke gained millions of supporters, by exposing the corrupt elitism of the bogus, two party , political system.

The majority of Americans are not aware of , nor will they believe; that they are totally manipulated by the elitists in their country. Conservative talk radio, or liberal talk radio, conservative and liberal magazines , and newspaper publishers, and executives of the conservative media are liberal elitists . They are globalist's of the highest order, and own or sit on the board of directors of liberal and conservative publications and media companies. The American public fails time and again, to understand; that the Hegelian , Marxist concept of Divide and Conquer is the ultimate globalist method of mass manipulation. Pitting one political party against another,one group of idealists against another, and funding, and promoting both parties. By creating this bipolar national personality, they can easily manipulate the theft, of American treasure and plunder the natural resources. This is done by their funding campaigns of congressmen, senators and presidents; who all swear loyalty to their largest financial supporters. If anyone takes the time to investigate the real supporters of liberal, and conservative political parties, and activist groups world wide; they will be amazed to discover the same people, foundations, and corporations, are behind them all. A prime example of this is William F.Buckley Jr. founder of the (so called) conservative movement in the United States, and publisher of the National Review. In a public debate with noted liberal Howard Zinn, Howard Zinn accused Buckley of being a liberal. He stated in the debate; that Buckley's conservativism was nothing more than a phoney disguise. William F. Buckley Jr. was a CIA operative for many years, and perhaps still is . He is a Yale graduate, and a member of the most liberally , globalist, elitist group in existence in the United States , The Council on Foreign Relations. Most of Buckley's associates are as well. The National Review has never shown a profit as a magazine, but has shown staggering multimillion dollar losses. It has never been adequately explained by Buckley, or others at the National Review, how the magazine has been able to continue to sustain multi million dollar losses through out it's history, and still remain in business.

Another example of the elitists' cynicsm behind U.S Presidential politics, is the former ambassador of Iraq, and a celebrity in the " Plame Gate" scandel, Joe Wilson. Joe Wilson was known for his family's Republican leanings. He openly gave a $2000 dollar donation to Al Gore's campaign, and hedged his bet with a $1000 donation to George W. Bush's campaign . His wife Valerie Plame Wilson was a CIA operative, outed by the Bush Administration , because of her husband's discrediting of the Bush statement, of a Niger Yellowcake connection, and Saddam Hussein. The Wilsons' troubles began when they tried to be honest, and expose the lies of the Bush Administration leading up to the Iraq invasion. It didn't do anyone any good, especially Scooter Libby. The U.S is still in Iraq, spent 650 billion dollars, and so far lost 4000 American lives. The Republican candidate receiving the most publicity lately is John McCain; who has stated; that he supports the war and American presense in Iraq may last one hundred years. I haven't checked lately at McCains list of donors, but I wouldn't be too surpized if Joe Wilson was one of them, hedging his bet again, hoping for another political appointment if McCain becomes president. He may be offered the Ambassadorship to Iraq, by either a new Democrat or Republican president; since no one wants the job.

It is all an elitist game for power. The herding of the American middle classes to the polls is merely for elitist fun and profit. Who makes the money in these campaigns? The media, the candidates, the winner, and his, or her big financial backers, and loyalists all win . Who receives the prestige, financial benefits, and endowments if their University is associated with the education of a president, Yale, or Harvard? Which university's alumni receive special attention in government appointments, and awarding of government contracts, the alumni of the winning candidate, or the loser? It's not hard to answer that question.

As a graduate of a state university, I have no fidelity, or association with the Ivy League, or to Yale, or Harvard. I am like everyone else; who is excluded from the private Yale vs. Harvard elitist's, tale gate parties. However, regardless of how apparent, or not the connection may be, the fact remains that Hillary Clinton , and Barack Obama do represent and are members of the exclusive Ivy League alumni. They are elitists, they are powerful, they are backed by people with the same ideals, and the same principles, or lack of principles, the same breeding, and inbreeding. Regardless who the herded American public votes for as the Democratic candidate, the average voter is never the winner in a presidential election; even if he, or she votes for the winning candidate. The winners in presidential elections, are those; who love watching the game, laugh the heartiest at it, have the best tail gate parties, and have a large bet on the winning team."
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Re: A vote for Hillary or Obama?

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Dan,

I’m at work and I took a quite glimpse, so I will have to get back with you tomorrow or Sunday! - this looks like a good post! By the way I will see you at the Nutcase Classic at Lake Tulloch.
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WOW!! :shock: I guess I won't have to add much to the "DEFINITION". Thanks go out to fish food & Dan. I will add that recession does also include the fact that people will spend way less & prices are high. What follows recession is also known as DEPRESSION which we haven't experienced since the late 1920's. Just look at fuel. Were we paying $3.50 per gal when Clinton was pres? Answer NO? Prices were below $2 per gal. Now, you can say this pres has nothing to do with economy or fuel prices, but I would say his responsibility is around 50%. The other 50% can be blamed on the Senate & Congress. Facts are while this president has continued to say "The economy's just fine" also goes along with other statements that include "Progress is being made in IRAQ" & "Brownie's (Former FEMA dir Michael Brown) doin a fine job in New Orleans" From the sounds of these statements "AMERICA needs to wake up" and send a message not only to the Presidential election but to congress & senate that a change would do us some good!!! :wink: :wink:
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Marty,
your allright, I appreciate your opinions even if I don't always agree with them, look forward to meeting you up at Tulloch.
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Re: A vote for Hillary or Obama?

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vote for me
Don't be lame. It's just fishing; you are not the new mesiah you know! Check your attitude at the door Mr. Spinners on da boat trailer.
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Re: A vote for Hillary or Obama OR WHO??

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Were you all post a great speech as to why one side is so much better that the other, Bush is a nit and. Hillary or Obama has all the answers???

Can some one please answer The Following ;

Exactly How will we be so much better off with either Hillary or Obama or a Republican for that matter as President ?. Considering who it is we have to elect in the first place ?

And please don't go off as some sort of peace nut hold over from the 60's. Been there & Done that.

Considering I most time as not vote Republican, But my choose this time around really stinks. and I am considering not even voting !
Yeah ? It's Me Again, SO WHAT!!!!!
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Re: A vote for Hillary or Obama OR WHO??

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This does create a problem doesnt it :? ? I admit ,vote republican normally, and will follow suit again . All this political talk about the parties working together-(BS) ,McCain.he actually tries this and gets both parties against him,lol! He is a little more "Not Republican" for me ,Im pretty consertive as a rule--however-he more than the alternative . I dont really expect any nite and day changes either way,things will take time no matter what . Up or down .I just hope that America is guided w/strength AND common sense for today and tomorow-not just for what the media says we want. And for the ever popular vote . By the time Bush got in the whitehouse ,the economy was different than it is now-that being said I dont blame him for the downturn ,let see now..NewYork got attacked,and all hell broke loose around the world. It has cost alot of money ,and actually..that not gonna stop if Hillary/Obama even work the same ticket (guaranteed) No one wants the pull out of our troops on there watch-That would label them as THE loser .History does funny things,and Obama's or who evers political career would be over . Dem Congress/Hillary ,.everyone tried to make sure that the current pres got that title and it didnt work. Soooo,,that being said ,ya just vote for the lessor of two evils! :wink: Funny my wife votes opposite of me usually,and thats her same reason also..Charlie
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