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What is a Soldier worth?

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When Bob Dole ran for the presidential office against Bill Clinton, a lot of people saw an old man with a south-paw handshake. What they forgot to see was the soldier that fought for our country, and lost part of his mobility in doing so. They forgot to see that this man then came back to the country and spent the rest of his career life in public service.

When John Kerry ran for the presidential office against George W. Bush, a lot of people saw an old man with a North Eastern wealthy liberal wife, who lacked single-minded focus. What they forgot to see was the soldier that fought for our country, and lost part of his innocence and faith in his Commander-in-Chief in doing so. Yes, he spoke up against some of the things he saw while he served, but he still served. A lot of people forgot to see that this man then came back to the country and spent the rest of his career life in public service.

When John McCain ran for the presidential office against Barrack Obama, a lot of people saw an old man with a "hackey mam" for a running mate, who wasn't as cool because Oprah said so. What they forgot to see was the soldier that fought for our country, and lost two years of his freedom in doing so. They forgot to see that this man then came back to the country and spent the rest of his career life in public service.

What is a Soldier worth in this country?
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Just because you're a soldier doesn't mean that you deserve to become president. Oh, and it's not the fact that Sarah Palin isn't cool, it's that she is a twit and was a gimmick.
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bass_turd wrote:Just because you're a soldier doesn't mean that you deserve to become president. Oh, and it's not the fact that Sarah Palin isn't cool, it's that she is a twit and was a gimmick.
Maybe it was my punctuation error, but you misread that sentence.

BTW:
Just because you ran a cooler and tighter campaign doesn't mean you deserve to be president either.

You missed the point. It's about servitude. I am willing to accept a man into office that does not pledge allegiance to the country for which the flag stands; and I will do so out of servitude. I will pay my taxes, and send my kids to public school, and raise them to respect others, out of servitude. I will defend the rights of others out of servitude. I will praise God, while allowing others to choose whether or not they do. And I will respect their choice of whom they call God.

I do not ask that any president, or any form of government, do anything more than allow me those rights. It's my job to take it from there.

If you were offended by what I have said, go back and read it again.

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bass_turd wrote:Just because you're a soldier doesn't mean that you deserve to become president. Oh, and it's not the fact that Sarah Palin isn't cool, it's that she is a twit and was a gimmick.
Palin a gimmick? WTF do you think Obama is? I'm pretty sure the Dems knew they would get the minorities to vote for him in this election cause he was Black, and that is a gimmick!
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G man I am beginning to like you more each day
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Palin was and is a gimmick, that gimmick backfired on McCain. Had he chosen Rudy G. or Mitt Romney we wouldn't even have this thread. Again McCain shot from the hip thinking she would help pull in the womens vote, only many women didn't like her, all politics are gimmick, smoke and mirrors.
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I agree some of what you say may be true, as they did try to cap on the hilary votes, but Romney would have never made it with his religon sadly enough, and Rudy has too many skeletons in the closet and he could not ever make it on his own much less a running mate. Lieberman would have done better even with his religon.
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The smartest guy throughout the primary, the most qualified in my mind from either side was Romney, I believe we left the best of them on the sidelines.
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G-Man, like a lot of people, will never get the big picture.
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I doubt honestly that anyone could have done much . Too much fire power (money)..I dont see how it was as close as it was popular vote .O has raised the bar and he is the highest priced president we could ask for ,well ,afford ,cause the money wasnt his ..it was givin ,ie..loaned,like all politicians . Promise -or be honest . Too many people looking for a "quick fix" and thru the promises he made it happen . Up to 3 weeks ago..."I will end this war and bring our troops home" Along with "I will not raise taxes on 90 % of the Americans" That means the top 10% going to carry the burden ? Its not far from that now . Anyways ,I did hope for a different outcome . Now ,I hope and pray that my fears are incorrect . Pelosi bothers me more than before . JMHO
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bass_turd wrote:G-Man, like a lot of people, will never get the big picture.
Oh wise one please enlighten me with your bullsh#t! :roll: :lol:

Winger we had a bad start, ya see first impressions are not always true.. :wink:

and yes Palin was brought in to sway the women voters hoping that Hilary losing to Obama would make them vote for McCain!
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What gets me is my young Republican relatives throwing the Military card in my face and getting angry for me expressing my views on Iraq and Vietnam.

The strange part is, I was the only one with balls enough to this date to enlist ('66 to '69)in the military since my uncle fought with Patton's army in WWII. That's one enlisted man in my family (all Republican) in 63 years. A couple expressed an interest but were talked out of it by their Republican parents who reminded them we were are war and they didn't want to lose them.

I guess war is fine to them if they can sit on their asses and watch TV with their kids and vote for Bush.

But I'm the "unpatriotic" one in the family.
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Dan McKenzie wrote:The smartest guy throughout the primary, the most qualified in my mind from either side was Romney, I believe we left the best of them on the sidelines.
I'll be damned McKenzie I finally found something we agree on!

And thank you bass_turd, as long as we have impudent mouthpieces like you and bassattack, the more it makes me want to get out and vote!
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I agree, Romney would have been a better choice.
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I bet you guys would all vote for Chuck Norris.
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Hey, Didn't he fight in Nam as well, he is a soldier too..............



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I love it !!!!

What better way than to get your point across, than to insult and name call others because they disagree with your point of View !!

Thanks Craig and some others for taking the higher road and not resort to being blind in a lighted room, Well Done :wink:
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Guy Kelley wrote:I love it !!!!

What better way than to get your point across, than to insult and name call others because they disagree with your point of View !!

Thanks Craig and some others for taking the higher road and not resort to being blind in a lighted room, Well Done :wink:
I know your not talking about me Guy! :evil: Keep an eye on your rods the next time you are at the Russos... :shock:

and who the hell is CRAIG?
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The debt to our service members is incaculable, their sacrifices far too great to be counted. Somewhere around 1.2 million men and women have died in service (military service only) to our nation, it is difficult to comprehend how many lives have been affected by their loss. Add to that an even higher number of casualties.

It's a travesty to see the questioning of someones service, is someones service to their nation diminished because it was in a time of peace, or because of what may have been said or did at some later point, I don't believe so.

Is service to your nation any less meaningful if it is given in the Navy, Coast Guard or Air Force? Or in other ways like the Peace Corp or Merchant Marines?

The sum total of lost lives and casualties and service to ones country amounts to the liberty and freedom we enjoy in our lives today, what value would you place on that?
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One thing that amazed me is that the highest losses occurred not on foreign soil by high tech machines, but right here in American during the Civil War by hand to hand combat, cannon and musket and rifle. 600,000 died.
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