When did you become a Proud American?

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:07 pm

I was drafted in 1966 into the Army and retired in 1992 and I served to make sure anyone the right to say stupid things. My son is now serving his 5th combat tour in the Middle East to make sure anyone the right to say stupid things.

In her speech last night, Michelle Obama the wife of Barack Obama who is a candidate for the President of the United States of America and if he is elected she will become the â€œFirst Ladyâ€

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:13 pm

Phil Burgess · Post by **Phil Burgess** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:15 pm

GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!

FIVEtenthz · Post by **FIVEtenthz** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:22 pm

Quit hatin' Marty!! Brotha gonna be prez and paint the White House black!

JamesH · Post by **JamesH** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:13 pm

Father/Daughter Talk
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'
Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.'
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!'
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican party.'
If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Republican and Democrat I'm all ears.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:19 pm

JamesH wrote:Father/Daughter Talk
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'
Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.'
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!'
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican party.'
If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Republican and Democrat I'm all ears.

Damn good, deserves to be repeated.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:26 pm

StockOption wrote:Damn good, deserves to be repeated.

Father/Daughter Talk
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'
Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.'
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!'
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican party.'
If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Republican and Democrat I'm all ears

Sorry, I can't resist.

Guy Kelley · Post by **Guy Kelley** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:07 am

Marty;

You might want to consider this.

Michel Savage, on his web site has acquired over 58,000,000 votes to run for president.

I am not advocating too vote for him or use Michel as a write in candidate.

But it dose give something to think about doesnt it when we ask our self your question ?

And those two bleeding heart demon-cats will make a change all right !?

I started to become a proud American the day i realized that I get what i earn from the sweat from my brow, not because some liberal politician thinks i am some social cause that is being underprivileged, due to my gender, race, age, minority statice, special interest group or corporation that needs to be propped up on the backs of taxpayers.

"Liberalism Is A Mental Disease"

josh St. John · Post by **josh St. John** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:22 am

Wow i'm all torn up.
Is'nt this a fishing forum?

tunaeater · Post by **tunaeater** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:04 am

I get it...if you have lots of money that means you work harder than say a middle class person...because most rich people wernt born into a wealthy family...they worked there way from the bottem up....this country does so much better as a whole with a strong upper class and a heavily taxed weak and shrinking middle class....and of course theres never two sides to a story...only one...if you see both sides of a story....then you got to think twice as much..thats dumb

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:10 am

Some more light reading which is Snopes verified.

The author is not in the forest, so he can truly see the forest from the outside. Interesting observations!

Democrat or Republican? The question is shockingly easy!
Theo Caldwell, National Post ( Canada )

An obvious choice can be unnerving. When the apparent perfection of one option or the unspeakable awfulness of another makes a decision seem too easy, it is human nature to become suspicious.

This instinct intensifies as the stakes of the given choice are raised. American voters know no greater responsibility to their country and to the world than to select their president wisely.

While we do not yet know who the Democrat and Republican nominees will be, any combination of the leading candidates from either party will make for the most obvious choice put to American voters in a generation. To wit, none of the Democrats has any business being president.

This pronouncement has less to do with any apparent perfection among the Republican candidates than with the intellectual and experiential paucity evinced by the Democratic field. "Not ready for prime time," goes the vernacular, but this does not suffice to describe how bad things are.

Alongside Hillary Clinton, add Barack Obama's kindergarten essays to an already confused conversation about Dennis Kucinich's UFO sightings, dueling celebrity endorsements and who can be quickest to retreat from America 's global conflict and raise taxes on the American people, and it becomes clear that these are profoundly unserious individuals.

To be sure, there has been a fair amount of rubbish and rhubarb on the Republican side (Ron Paul, call your office), but even a cursory review of the legislative and professional records of the leading contenders from each party reveals a disparity akin to adults competing with children.

For the Republicans, Rudy Giuliani served as a two-term mayor of New York City , turning a budget deficit into a surplus and taming what was thought to be an ungovernable metropolis. Prior to that, he held the third-highest rank in the Reagan Justice Department, obtaining over 4,000 convictions.

Mitt Romney, before serving as governor of Massachusetts , founded a venture capital firm that created billions of dollars in shareholder value, and he then went on to save the Salt Lake City Olympics.

While much is made of Mike Huckabee's history as a Baptist minister, he was also a governor for more than a decade and, while Arkansas is hardly a "cradle of presidents," it has launched at least one previous chief executive to national office.

John McCain's legislative and military career spans five decades, with half that time having been spent in the Congress.
Even Fred Thompson, whose excess of nonchalance has transformed his once-promising campaign into nothing more than a theoretical possibility, has more experience in the U.S. Senate than any of the leading Democratic candidates.

With just over one term as a Senator to her credit, Hillary Clinton boasts the most extensive record of the potential Democratic nominees. In that time, Senator Clinton cannot claim a single legislative accomplishment of note, and she is best known lately for requesting $1-million from Congress for a museum to commemorate Woodstock .

Barack Obama is nearing the halfway point of his first term in the Senate, having previously served as an Illinois state legislator and, as Clinton has correctly pointed out, has done nothing but run for president since he first arrived in Washington. Between calling for the invasion of Pakistan and fumbling a simple question on driver's licenses for illegal aliens, Obama has shown that he is not the fellow to whom the nation ought to hike the nuclear football.

John Edwards, meanwhile, embodies the adage that the American people will elect anyone to Congress -- once. From his $1,200 haircuts to his personal war on poverty, proclaimed from the porch of his 28,000-square-foot home, purchased with the proceeds of preposterous lawsuits exploiting infant cerebral palsy, Edwards is living proof that history can play out as tragedy and farce simultaneously.

Forget for a moment all that you believe about public policy. Discard your notions about taxes and Iraq , free trade and crime, and consider solely the experience of these two sets of candidates. Is there any serious issue that you would prefer to entrust to a person with the Democrats' experience, rather than that of any of the Republicans?

Now consider the state of debate in each party. While the Republicans compare tax proposals and the best way to prosecute the War on Terror, Democrats are divining the patterns and meaning of the glitter and dried macaroni glued to the page of one of their leading candidate's kindergarten projects.

Does this decision not become unsettlingly simple?

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:21 am

I find it unsettling that the mods don't move this crap to the political thread, and that Marty doesn't have the smarts to find the political thread.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:23 am

Yeah I agree it should go there......I figured my last post would put it over top and on its way

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:21 pm

Greg, what do you know about smarts â€“ you answer this post three times, it must interest you! So why donâ€™t you answer the question â€œWhen did you become a Proud American or are you?

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:24 pm

Marty wrote:Greg, what do you know about smarts â€“ you answer this post three times, it must interest you! So why donâ€™t you answer the question â€œWhen did you become a Proud American or are you?

If I wanted to take the time to argue politics, I go to the political board.

Rich hamilton · Post by **Rich hamilton** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:32 pm

I appreciate your passion, I appreciate the others who have commented on your passion good or bad.

Perception is a very funny thing, FAT, SKINNY, COLOR, WORDS.

Remember what the dixie chicks said? Remember the backlash? Now look at them! I think the loss of revenue was well spent in actions instead of pocket books.

Consider all the anger and frustration over this. What would happen if we all actually worked together?

Do you really think she meant it to come off that way?

I became a proud American in 1967 when I remember the body bags being loaded and the boys coming home from war watching it on television. I was 6 years old. I wished then as I do now that I would never have to watch that again.

I guess we have not learned yet. Thanks for you and your sons service and heroism. RR[/img]

getalife · Post by **getalife** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:39 pm

If you are bothered by this post on the fishing forum then dont read it... just skip over it and go to the next topic. Some things need to be said and this place is as good as any. We will all be affected by the choices that the American voters will make in November. Those choices will effect the economy and the environment... and our ability to fish where we want, when we want. This topic has everything to do with our ability to afford the sport we all love. Many of the members here are business owners who will be seriously affected by the liberal fiscal policies if Hussein or Hillary gets in office.

gabuelhaj · Post by **gabuelhaj** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:46 pm

Apparrently, she's only been an adult 7 and 1/2 years.

bassmeout · Post by **bassmeout** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:02 pm

This is a fishing forum. Nuke this post ASAP!!!!

HILLARY, OBAMA OR ANYONE ELSE... All of those names are better than what we have now!!! !

U ARE RIGHT ... SOMETHINGS NEED TO BE SAID.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:23 pm

The thread's question is easy for me. In fact I remember the exact date and location:

July 20, 1969, I was 7 and living in Enfield, CT.

This fills me with pride, awe and patriotism whenever I watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4

Since that time there have been many, many events that make me proud to me American. I look forward to many more in my lifetime.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:36 pm

I'll really be proud again we we get this dork out of office that you guys probably voted for twice.

buzzfish · Post by **buzzfish** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:42 pm

This is a fishing forum. This post does not belong on this forum and whether I am proud or not isn't anyones business but mine.

Why don't you find an appropriate place for this?

fish_food · Post by **fish_food** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:45 pm

It's just a speech. All politicians (and those connected with them), whether Democrat or Republican, will tailor their oratory to the specific crowd they happen to be in front of. They'll say whatever pushes peoples' buttons and gets them worked up.

All politicians are slimy and none are sincere.

Rich hamilton · Post by **Rich hamilton** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:42 pm

so dude! this is not a personal attack but then why dont you post something to talk about? Ie; why does Dave Gliebe use a combo c lector for figuring out which bait color is working best and how many boats has he won?

What part of the delta turns on first in mid feb?

What water clarity is lakeport or redbud right now?

Answer: people ask questions on here and continually get shot down or no response at all. i have noticed you posted 24 times. feel free to post something fishing related!

getalife · Post by **getalife** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:46 pm

How's Clearlake doing these days? My boat went back to the factory for a whole new cap so I haven't been out since October. I have always been proud to be an American but I am especially proud when I step onto the deck of my boat first thing in the morning and realize that its all mine, and if I were born in any other country I probably could not have such a luxury.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:01 pm

getalife wrote:How's Clearlake doing these days? My boat went back to the factory for a whole new cap so I haven't been out since October. I have always been proud to be an American but I am especially proud when I step onto the deck of my boat first thing in the morning and realize that its all mine, and if I were born in any other country I probably could not have such a luxury.

Yeah that first cast and first run to the spot on the lake is one of those times...for sure

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:08 pm

I was proud to be an American the first time that I trully uderstood what it meant, that would be at a very young age. I became even more proud after 9/11. After that horrible day i decided to really look around, and started to really see what was going on in this country. from politics, to war. If your not paying attention to your surrounding by now then you are in for a huge wake up call one day!

Proud American
G

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:51 pm

let's not forget who the candidate actually is. there have been many former first ladies/wives of candidates that have said things that their husbands didn't necessarily wish they had. your reference to him as "hussien" is typical talk radio nonsense.

and to answer your question: I was born a proud american, my family goes back 300 years on this continent, they have fought in every war that has taken place since the new world came to be, sometimes as in the civil war they oppossed one another. I cannot recall a day or time when I felt ashamed to be an american, regretable things happen, but at the end of every day I can never recall wishing I wasn't living in the land of the free and home to so many brave men and women. two years ago i stood at my grandfathers grave in "punchbowl national cemetary" i was extremely proud of him, a man i never met, he rests in the greatest of company, the thousands of men and women who lost their lives in the attack on pearl harbor. yes indeed i am a proud american.

lets face it, this country isn't the same country our grandfathers "the greatest generation" left us, we're a nation of excess to some, of great inequality to others, of elitists and outcasts. change will take place with or without us, we can go kicking and screaming, or with it and embrace it, but we can't stop it good or bad.

republican and democratic parties no longer fit many of us, we fall somewhere in-between. I have voted accross party lines and will do so again at some point in time because party affiliation doesn't get my vote by default.

one of the richest men in the world, a self made billionaire, a man whos midas touch has created wealth nations can only dream about believes that the wealthiest americans don't pay their fair share, few would call warren buffet ignorant or stupid. he more than many understands wealth is made on the toil of the common man.

sen. mccain is an american hero, what he has endured both physically and mentally is beyond comprhension of the average person, america is indebted to him and others like him, but that doesn't make him the best choice for president, it makes him a great american.

ronald reagan had no experience in foreign affairs, yet he in part pulled off one our contries greatest victories without a drop of blood.

bill clinton had no experience with national budgets, the arkansas budget wouldn't even cover the janitorial bill for congressional offices, yet his mastery of budget affairs is as good as any modern day president.

experience alone is sometimes not the the only answer, as the old saying goes "a new broom sweeps clean".

whatever happens november 5th, only time will tell, one thing for sure is i will wake up the following day and still be a proud american.

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:38 pm

Hay Dan â€“ I miss you at the Winter Nutcase!

I think you need to reread my post I did not use "hussien", someone else might have use it but it was not me.

I bet you a banana you are going to vote for Barack Obama who my liberal friends say he wants to be call Barry, go figure!

My problem is I donâ€™t have any candidates in this election they are all too liberal for me. But just my .02 I think Obama will be the next President of the United States. I hoping he is another Jimmy Carter and is in office only for 4 years and we get a real leader as we did after Carter.

getalife · Post by **getalife** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:47 pm

I agree with much of what you said Dan, and since this thread has been moved to the political forum I will give my .02. NONE of the current candidates represent me! None of them deserve my vote, and none of them have earned my respect...politically (McCain has my respect for other reasons). Who is going to build a wall on the southern border to stop the invasion?... who is going to bring the jobs back to america?... who is going to protect my children from another terrorist attack?... NOT HILLARY! NOT OBAMA! NOT McCAIN! They are all career politicians with the single goal of getting elected. Most agree that Bush was not the president we thought we were electing. But his approval rating is almost double the approval rating of our elected officials on the legislative side... and who are the 3 main candidates now... senators. What in the hell are the people thinking. If we want change, and I think it may be the only thing that can save us, we need to elect people that are not entrenched in the current system and not owned by the special interests. I fear for our future. I have fought and bled for this country and I carry the scars, both mental and physical. I do not want to see my efforts, and the efforts of all those that served before me, wasted by irresponsible liberals who want nothing more than a population of oppressed people completely dependent on the government.

Dan McKenzie · Post by **Dan McKenzie** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:49 pm

yeah i had to open the shop, we're actually building parts to ship to china, go figure. sorry all the posts blended together, left my glasses on my desk, ha ha.

well bud you owe me a banana, cause i am not ashamed to tell the world i am voting for who i think is the best possible candidate of the group, not that what i think means squat! senator mccain, simply put i find a commonality with his ideas and proposals, plus i know his mom would kick his butt if he did something stupid, that lady should've been president.
so pay up sucker

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:11 pm

Dan,

O my, you going to vote for Juan, did you just feel that earthquake it had to be 6.0! Tell me more about his mother I have not heard of her, she must be close to 90.

I own you a banana, each time you get into your boat look around.

Getalife,

I know what you mean and Iâ€™m in your corner. What I plan to do is a write-in this election and I will be writing â€œRebuild the GOPâ€

fish_food · Post by **fish_food** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:32 pm

getalife wrote:...I think it may be the only thing that can save us, we need to elect people that are not entrenched in the current system and not owned by the special interests.

Those who aren't yet entrenched in the current system or aren't owned by special interests are actually looking to become owned and entrenched in the system. Those are the main reasons people enter politics to begin with--it's not out of idealism or some altruistic need serve the people's interest.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:05 am

Pretty good stuff Dan

Guy Kelley · Post by **Guy Kelley** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:15 pm

I'm going on the limb with this i know, and probably get hit on the head with it.

If all the candidates in question are so dam bad, And McCain is really the only one with any real experience in office, as a career politician. And we all somewhat agree that a politician is going to say anything or promise you everything to get you to vote for them.

Why don't you write in Michael Savage. At least he will tell you the truth. You and I might not like hearing it but at least it will be the truth.

Dose he stand a chance !? NO, Is he a politician!? NO, hes a talk show host on a radio station. Dose he speak from the heart!? YES.
Dose have the answers to the problems at hand !?

More than I think our career politicians who are currently asking for our vote do !

Would it be a waste of a vote. !? No more than the time we wrote in Pat Paulson or Snoopy, Remember ?

Oh! by the way ! Well said *Stock, Dan & GetAlife*

getalife · Post by **getalife** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:30 pm

I have been a faithful listener since Savages 2nd day in radio. He is exactly what we need in this country. Unfortunately, he decided not to run for the office (I think he would have done well). I cannot waste my vote on someone that is not in the race. I have to choose the lesser of three evils (the only reason I put McCain in the evil column is because his position on illegal immigration). So, I have to cast my vote for Juan because the other two are absolutely unthinkable. Hillary is just plain EVIL. Tell me I'm wrong! Obama has no experience, sounds like a baptist preacher, and talks about nothing but "change" without explaining what exactly that means. Its too bad Savage did not run, of all the public figures, his beliefs and values are closest to mine..

getalife · Post by **getalife** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:35 pm

By the way... I predict, here and now, that McCain will beat either Hillary or Barrack by at least 5 pts and will get more than 50% of the popular vote. Mark my words and save this post because I am right! I have to believe that the American people are not a bunch of sheep that can be led around by the nose. We will wake up and realize what the liberals are doing to this country! (hopefully).

fish_food · Post by **fish_food** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:40 pm

getalife wrote:I have to believe that the American people are not a bunch of sheep that can be led around by the nose.

The majority of people DO WANT to be sheep and led around by the nose. It's the human nature to follow the path of least resistance and to deny real problems happening around them. It's always been that way--people just want to live their day to day lives and pretend all is well.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:48 am

fish_food wrote:
getalife wrote:I have to believe that the American people are not a bunch of sheep that can be led around by the nose.
The majority of people DO WANT to be sheep and led around by the nose. It's the human nature to follow the path of least resistance and to deny real problems happening around them. It's always been that way--people just want to live their day to day lives and pretend all is well.

what people are you talking about? I live my life day to day, and always check my surroundings! Hahahahahaha!!!!! Some people don't get it!!

fish_food · Post by **fish_food** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:50 pm

g-man wrote:
fish_food wrote:
getalife wrote:I have to believe that the American people are not a bunch of sheep that can be led around by the nose.
The majority of people DO WANT to be sheep and led around by the nose. It's the human nature to follow the path of least resistance and to deny real problems happening around them. It's always been that way--people just want to live their day to day lives and pretend all is well.
what people are you talking about? I live my life day to day, and always check my surroundings! Hahahahahaha!!!!! Some people don't get it!!

What people am I talking about? Probably the majority of the American public.

As long as most folks have the availability of relatively inexpensive/plentiful gasoline, the teevee for distraction and lotsa cheap junk to buy at Wal-Mart, they're pretty satisfied with the state of things. The majority people out there don't even care enough to educate themselves on national issues, let alone act to improve things. At most, they'll cast a vote or two during elections with "hot" issues...

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:17 pm

fish_food wrote:
g-man wrote:
fish_food wrote: The majority of people DO WANT to be sheep and led around by the nose. It's the human nature to follow the path of least resistance and to deny real problems happening around them. It's always been that way--people just want to live their day to day lives and pretend all is well.
what people are you talking about? I live my life day to day, and always check my surroundings! Hahahahahaha!!!!! Some people don't get it!!
What people am I talking about? Probably the majority of the American public.

As long as most folks have the availability of relatively inexpensive/plentiful gasoline, the teevee for distraction and lotsa cheap junk to buy at Wal-Mart, they're pretty satisfied with the state of things. The majority people out there don't even care enough to educate themselves on national issues, let alone act to improve things. At most, they'll cast a vote or two during elections with "hot" issues...

True, and they will be the ones that pay for it when the sh@t hits the fan! NOT ME!

CharlieS. · Post by **CharlieS.** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:53 pm

getalife wrote:By the way... I predict, here and now, that McCain will beat either Hillary or Barrack by at least 5 pts and will get more than 50% of the popular vote. Mark my words and save this post because I am right! I have to believe that the American people are not a bunch of sheep that can be led around by the nose. We will wake up and realize what the liberals are doing to this country! (hopefully).

I actually hope you are correct .Not that I have always been a McCain loyalist . However...I do feel that he has more to offer the american people . That being said , all in all....Californias majority has shown me that there are more people that want more government assistence (interference) than I do .And the government wants it that way!! Case in point illegal aliens .Yea..lets give out licenses. Its the system that treats those that are working there A off that gets bent (you-me-etc,etc.) I can hardly wait (sick) when some damn lawyer files a suit that says that those here illegally should be allowed to vote because its there right to be represented . Charlie

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