Who killed the tules in Clear Lake

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Who killed the tules in Clear Lake

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Is it from spraying, and if so who is the organization that is responsible for the vegetation abatement up there?

Why are they doing this?
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The cold winter weather kills them off every year.
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I LIVED THERE 20 YEARS AND IT WAS A NORMAL WINTER DIE OFF THING. NOW THERE SHOULD BE TINY GREEN TIPS STARTING TO SHOW IN A FEW PLACES AS THE NEW GROWTH APPEARS
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DFG! they've been killing them off for 6 years under the pretense of hydrilla eradication. & it's not so much the sprays, as the time-release granules they spread....sink in & kill the roots. We've been fishing the submerged 'dead' clumps since the water rose...When you pull up a black root, you know it's dead & won't be regrowing.
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I understand the winter die off but there were new growth tules in the lake in mid March.

It looks like the Dead Sea right now, something out of the ordinary is going on up there.
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My pond froze over this winter and it killed some of the Tules. Every winter they turn brown but come back with a vengence in the spring. In fact, every so often I spray them with Rodeo to keep them under control and try to save enough patches to practice flipping but not allow them to take over. The dead ones have black roots when you pull them.
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You might want to pull some live tule roots.

Tule roots are normally black. That is why these areas heat faster in the spring and will hold fish during the spring warm up. The Tules in some shallow still water areas of the Delta also die off each winter. Actually only the shoots die off and the roots stay healthy and they come back each spring.

I don't think DFG does any aquatic weed abatement, but they do issue permits for organizations that want to do weed abatement. You might want to research the abatement, but I believe it is Lake County that performs the abatement.
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We were instructed by Lake Bed Management not to spray or remove the tules they are one of the not many native plants to the lake they are very protective of them , you are aloud to cut them back . Keep in mind this winter saw mid teens which took its toll on everything ! I noticed at the B.A.S.S weight-in the M.C. mentioned a few times about dying tules and spraying the weeds .
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Dewayne wrote:You might want to pull some live tule roots.

Tule roots are normally black.
jbut not rotten all the way through!
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Hmm...and exactly how cold was the winter up at Clear Lake this past winter :? Little rainfall and lots of bluebirds do make fer cold winter weather :shock: I seem to remember my buddy who guides there saying the water being really cold...for a really long time...I wunder if this could be the real reason fer the Clear Lake Tule Crisis :x
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that is out of the ordinary, is that it typically happens sooner, like the die off we had here on the River in January. We had more floating, dead tulles in January and February than I have ever seen duing that period on the River. And this was due to the extend period of cold, heck, that water temp here was from 49-39 from December 1 through February 1. Normally we do not see two straight months of sub 50 degree temps here.

I can remember years past up there, we're you could be in the entire state park area from Kelsey, west to the trailer park, and you could see the dead tules underwater, sometimes as far as 100 feet from the remaining tule line. And this was always in March, April & May, we'd find the bass staging & cruising in that stuff, as well as it was a common hunting ground fer all the carp shooters!
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It was cold this past winter at the lake for sure.

I routinely recorded water temperatures as low as 38 degrees at depths of 10', 20' and 30' this past winter.

I think the extended cold is clearly the culprit. Remember the duck die off earlier this year as well?
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The tulies in the delta and brackish water die off alomst once a quarter--- or at least three times a year. For the past years I can almost set my clock to it at work-- and it does not matter the temp, season or water conditions as far as I can see.

When they die off they create forage, haven and more nutrients to the soil for new growth and the surounding fish, ducks, doves, pheasants, wildlife ect.. as habitat

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