Do you fear terrorism?

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:12 am

More people die from bee stings than by terrorism each year
More people die from peanut allergies than by terrorism each year.
More people die from rattlesnake bites than by terrorism each year.
Thousands more die from car accidents than terrorism each year.

I fear bees and peanuts

Skeeterman · Post by **Skeeterman** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:23 am

No I do not fear terrorism I fear Odumma

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Fri May 06, 2011 1:57 pm

Greg_Cornish wrote:More people die from bee stings than by terrorism each year
More people die from peanut allergies than by terrorism each year.
More people die from rattlesnake bites than by terrorism each year.
Thousands more die from car accidents than terrorism each year.

I fear bees and peanuts

bee sting deaths about 40 per yr
rattlesnake bites about 7-12
peanut allergy about 10
Out of a population of 300 million

Talking in the US I assume. If not for George Bush's policies put in place after 9/11 I guarantee you would fear terrorism more than a bee or peanuts.

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Fri May 06, 2011 2:13 pm

What I fear is the dumbing down of our children with your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is the killing of another million unborn babies because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is the 9% unemployment because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is Gas prices moving to $5 a gallon because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is our economy going into the gutter because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is America’s losing its role as the leading Superpower because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is that we may not be able to stop Obamanation extraordinary deficit spending because of your Liberals ideas.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:33 pm

Marty wrote:What I fear is the dumbing down of our children with your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is the killing of another million unborn babies because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is the 9% unemployment because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is Gas prices moving to $5 a gallon because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is our economy going into the gutter because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is America’s losing its role as the leading Superpower because of your Liberals ideas.
What I fear is that we may not be able to stop Obamanation extraordinary deficit spending because of your Liberals ideas.

Who cuts education? Who denounces abortion but refuses to provide support to poor single mothers when 85% of all felons come from poor homes, are unwanted and abused as children? What President announced we needed bailouts or we were headed for another great depression? Who took us to an unneeded unjust war then lowered taxes so we couldn't pay for it? Who said they would get Bin Laden then later said he was not a priority? Who convinced our country to go to war to stop WMDs when there were none. There's plenty of blame to go around Marty. I still find it weird you believe we live in a democracy.

All of our politicians are in someone's pocket. They can't get to Washington unless they are.

You silly ***, Marty. The Republicans NEED abortion as a political football. Why did they not do anything about abortion in the years they controlled the government. Nothing. They did nothing! They need the issue to stay alive. They will never stop it if they could. How else would they divert our attention from the real problems?

Skeeterman · Post by **Skeeterman** » Sat May 07, 2011 1:17 pm

The Republicans NEED abortion as a political football.No I don't thinks so Greg they have the economy thats going on for them.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat May 07, 2011 1:33 pm

Skeeterman wrote:The Republicans NEED abortion as a political football.No I don't thinks so Greg they have the economy thats going on for them.

Yes they have to dig themselves of of that debacle they created and then had to skip out on because his term ran out.

I personally know a right as right can get Republican who was against abortion take his own daughter out of state to get a late term abortion in Kansas because he feared for the daughters life and if the baby wasn't still born would be a vegged out baby throughout the baby's life.

A real human being will compromise his beliefs when it comes down to ensuring his family's well being.

He finally decided this after having his two year old daughter die in his arms from congestive heart failure she had from birth.

?Hey, right wingers, if you want to wage war you have to pay for it. There are two reasons we went to Iraq. To get rid of inventory so the war machine could manufacture more weapons and keep people employed and to control the worlds largest oil fields under their control and limit the supply to Eastern block countries while making tons of money selling it to Europe and not us.

They are the people who elect our government not us. Voters just take part in the dog and pony show.

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Mon May 09, 2011 4:59 am

Greg_Cornish wrote:
Skeeterman wrote:The Republicans NEED abortion as a political football.No I don't thinks so Greg they have the economy thats going on for them.
Yes they have to dig themselves of of that debacle they created and then had to skip out on because his term ran out.

I personally know a right as right can get Republican who was against abortion take his own daughter out of state to get a late term abortion in Kansas because he feared for the daughters life and if the baby wasn't still born would be a vegged out baby throughout the baby's life.

A real human being will compromise his beliefs when it comes down to ensuring his family's well being.

He finally decided this after having his two year old daughter die in his arms from congestive heart failure she had from birth.

?Hey, right wingers, if you want to wage war you have to pay for it. There are two reasons we went to Iraq. To get rid of inventory so the war machine could manufacture more weapons and keep people employed and to control the worlds largest oil fields under their control and limit the supply to Eastern block countries while making tons of money selling it to Europe and not us.

They are the people who elect our government not us. Voters just take part in the dog and pony show.

Yea , by looking back at your posts, you know someones aunts , uncle that has done exactly what is being discussed at any time on the board, that you met while talking to world leaders that seek you knowledge. ONLY IN YOUR MIND

2ndsuks · Post by **2ndsuks** » Mon May 09, 2011 7:49 am

Greg_Cornish wrote:
Who cuts education? Good question, who does. Educational funding that should go to the kids and schools find their way to unions and pensions, who makes that choice! Who denounces abortion but refuses to provide support to poor single mothers when 85% of all felons come from poor homes, are unwanted and abused as children? That would be me and the majority of Americans who are sick and tired of subsidizing irresponsible crack heads who breed like rabbits! What President announced we needed bailouts or we were headed for another great depression? Well if you think that was a huge mistake like I do then you would have to be a complete moron to vote for a president that continues on the same path and spends even more. Who took us to an unneeded unjust war then lowered taxes so we couldn't pay for it? John F. Kennedy! Who said they would get Bin Laden then later said he was not a priority? You conveniently left out "top priority" Which in fact it never should have been a top priority of the US to go after one man, that doesn't mean he gave up but it does make a good liberal talking point. Who convinced our country to go to war to stop WMDs when there were none The U.S. Congress!. There's plenty of blame to go around Marty. I still find it weird you believe we live in a democracy.

All of our politicians are in someone's pocket. They can't get to Washington unless they are.

You silly ***, Marty. The Republicans NEED abortion as a political football. Why did they not do anything about abortion in the years they controlled the government. Nothing. They did nothing! They need the issue to stay alive. They will never stop it if they could. How else would they divert our attention from the real problems?

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Mon May 09, 2011 4:20 pm

Greg_Cornish wrote:
Who cuts education? The only cuts coming to education are in California and that is from Jerry Brown trying to scare you into voting for higher taxes when California is already the highest taxed State in the Union. But that was not what I was talking about – read that bullet again.

Who denounces abortion but refuses to provide support to poor single mothers when 85% of all felons come from poor homes, are unwanted and abused as children? What a bigot statement that is!!! So your saying that Democrat are trying to reduce crime by killing off the poor?

What President announced we needed bailouts or we were headed for another great depression? Obama did it twice and for twice as much!

Who took us to an unneeded unjust war then lowered taxes so we couldn't pay for it? Again Obama, he said that Afghanistan was the just war and then signed the Democrat bill to keep the Bush tax cuts. Then put more troops (300,000) when he said he was going to put our troops out. Also what happen to Guantanamo, was that also going to be closed?

Who said they would get Bin Laden then later said he was not a priority? Again that is what Obama said, thanks for reminding me!

Who convinced our country to go to war to stop WMDs when there were none. The United Nations and a Democrat congress agreed and Bush signed off

There's plenty of blame to go around Marty. I still find it weird you believe we live in a democracy. I don’t, I believe we are in a Republic, what I find irony is you don’t know the difference.

All of our politicians are in someone's pocket. They can't get to Washington unless they are. I have to agree with you and since there are more Democrats in Washington that are owned by the Unions then Republicans what are you going to do about the Democrat? Conservative have made big steps this last election in cleaning up the Republican party. Again what are you going to do to clean your side of the fence?

You silly ***, Marty. The Republicans NEED abortion as a political football. Why did they not do anything about abortion in the years they controlled the government. They did Greg, they removed all federal funding and Obama put it back in even after he said he would not. So I may be a silly *** but you are baby killer!

Nothing. They did nothing! They need the issue to stay alive. They will never stop it if they could. How else would they divert our attention from the real problems? So your saying the killing of babies and Woman rights are not real problems?

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Mon May 09, 2011 5:13 pm

I would agree with Marty's rebuttal of your points Greg. But add, the Supreme court decided abortion was legal and its the law of the land, what was it you expected Bush to do? Repubs have been trying to stop your tax dollars from funding abortion the Dems continue to try every thing they can to subsidize abortions with your tax dollars. Who do you agree with?

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Tue May 10, 2011 11:15 am

Grumpy wrote:I would agree with Marty's rebuttal of your points Greg. But add, the Supreme court decided abortion was legal and its the law of the land, what was it you expected Bush to do? Repubs have been trying to stop your tax dollars from funding abortion the Dems continue to try every thing they can to subsidize abortions with your tax dollars. Who do you agree with?

How can you agree with a rebuttal that never answered a single question? Marty, your whole argument is based on baby killing which is untrue. The supreme court ruled it so. Just because you are uninformed, doesn't make it true.
Oh and I don't ever remember killing a baby although this is the second time an insane person has accused me of it. The first was a paranoid schizophrenic that broke into my house and now a paranoid schizophrenic on Western Bass forums.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Tue May 10, 2011 12:15 pm

Oh and just for the record. While I believe that a woman has a right to get an abortion, I don't believe that taxpayers should have to fund it and would encourage my own daughter, if I had one, not to get one. But it would be her decision.

So if the government so chooses to stop funding abortions I wouldn't be all that upset about it. I know a few women who have carried to term and given the baby up for adoption.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Wed May 11, 2011 8:17 am

Abortion in the USA. Settled in 1973 with the Roe V. Wade supreme court decision. Yet here we are, nearly forty years later, still supposedly debating the issue, when in reality it's just another ploy to get the masses worked up and focused on something so that they can do something else hoping you won't notice or, if you do, won't hold them accountable for. It's all endless diversions. And to overturn the decision basically does what? Takes away a woman's right to have control over her own body and gives it to who? Do you guys even reason this stuff out before you argue about it? Do you want the state or Feds telling mother's who can and can't or who must have children? Really? Last I checked 'no one' was being forced to have an abortion. These are women making choices for themselves and their families. Who is anyone to tell them they haven't that right?

Hey Marty, let's go back, repeal Roe V. Wade and let the government support all those new babies. Is that what you're saying?

'Liberal unborn baby killers', are you kidding me?

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Wed May 11, 2011 8:35 am

no , lets go back to states , deciding what is right for each state. And no gov. funding for it.
Welfare , you get an implant till you are off the gov. dole. I am not so much against a woman deciding as I am against paying for it.
Lot better places for my money to go. and with the birth control devices out now there is no reason for gov paying for children or abortions

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Wed May 11, 2011 11:06 pm

I'd like to know if Marty believes I'm am a liberal child murderer, what should be my punishment?

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:53 pm

sTony wrote: Abortion in the USA. Settled in 1973 with the Roe V. Wade Supreme Court decision.
That was a 4 to 5 decision and is the reason the Liberal Left (Democrats) use it as a litmus test for all appointments to the Supreme Court – if it is settled then why the litmus test? It is so settled that the Democrats tried to prosecute Clearance Thomas and everyone that is nominated by a Conservatives.

Yet here we are, nearly forty years later, still supposedly debating the issue,
And for good reason – it is wrong!

when in reality it's just another ploy to get the masses worked up and focused on something so that they can do something else hoping you won't notice or, if you do, won't hold them accountable for. It's all endless diversions.
If it is a ploy, there must have been a lot of other issues during those 40 years? In those 40 years of the Democrats have not let up one bit in trying to make sure it was available to the poor, what is their reason?

And to overturn the decision basically does what?
It will give life to a million unborn babies a year! And in the last 40 years the estimates are as high as 30 million – can you say holocaust?

Takes away a woman's right to have control over her own body and gives it to who?
That is a good question but who gave the woman the right to end a life?

Do you guys even reason this stuff out before you argue about it?
What do you mean by, you guys? You say it like your have a more of a morale judgment then the rest of us. Now that you are down her with us are you one of the guys? Did you reason what your were going to say before you argue your point?

Do you want the state or Feds telling mother's who can and can't or who must have children? Really?
I did not know the debate about Abortion was about who can and can’t have or must have children! The debate is about ending the life of a child. Did you know that the debate of Abortion is to a point now that they are saying the chose of a woman is to end the life a child up to 12 months?

Last I checked 'no one' was being forced to have an abortion.
Correct – but here in California they are passing laws that girls in high school can have a abortion and not even bring her parents into the decision process, I wonder why?

These are women making choices for themselves and their families. Who is anyone to tell them they haven't that right?
The same anyone’s that say I have to have Obamacare, the same anyone’s who say I have to ware a seat belt or a helmet.Hey

Marty, let's go back, repeal Roe V. Wade and let the government support all those new babies. Is that what you're saying?
It would be better that paying for the abortion! But let me ask you why does it have to be the Government? Why can it be the persons that bring the child into the world? If we did not use abortion as a birth control and pay for it with tax payers money maybe then people would think a little harder before their careless acts.

'Liberal unborn baby killers', are you kidding me?
No – I’m not kidding you! “O” by the way you are a survivor – I wonder what would have happen if the issue was debated for 50 years?

The debate over abortion divides both men and women and often most say this issue could be a factor in their vote. Guess your voting for Obama?

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Fri May 13, 2011 8:57 am

So what should the punishment be for liberal baby killers? Logic would say that if we are indeed baby killers then we should be punished. What should that punishment be?

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Sat May 14, 2011 7:10 am

This thread got off track and went south quickly. Abortion brings out strong opinions and emotions, its a subject people have deeply ingrained beliefs about and neither side will convince the other to change their positions on it. When opposing sides discuss the abortion issue it always ends up ugly.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Sat May 14, 2011 8:44 am

I forgot, when I posted this, why it doesn't make sense to post in here. Now, I'm reminded.

sTony

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat May 14, 2011 9:32 am

sTony wrote:I forgot, when I posted this, why it doesn't make sense to post in here. Now, I'm reminded.

sTony

I just like punishing Rod and Marty.

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Sat May 14, 2011 9:42 am

sTony wrote:I forgot, when I posted this, why it doesn't make sense to post in here. Now, I'm reminded.

sTony

Tony with all due respect, if you just drop in and basically make a blanket statement demeaning the participants, then yes you should probably stay out of it.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sat May 14, 2011 11:55 am

Oh come on, don't be so grumpy.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Sat May 14, 2011 11:30 pm

Grumpy wrote:
sTony wrote:I forgot, when I posted this, why it doesn't make sense to post in here. Now, I'm reminded.

sTony
Tony with all due respect, if you just drop in and basically make a blanket statement demeaning the participants, then yes you should probably stay out of it.

Grumpy, with all due respect, ninety percent of what I read in here is one person 'demeaning' another.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sun May 15, 2011 8:42 am

I think he got you there grumpy

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Sun May 15, 2011 1:12 pm

I can disagree strongly but could sit down and have some pizza and beer with any of you and no doubt enjoy the visit.

Skeeterman · Post by **Skeeterman** » Sun May 15, 2011 1:36 pm

Good idea Grumpy lets do it.What do you think Marty, Greg, sTony and who ever else.

2ndsuks · Post by **2ndsuks** » Mon May 16, 2011 5:33 am

Why do so many liberals hang their hat on "a women's choice" to do what ever they want to their body, yet by law a woman or a man cannot commit suicide or walk down main street naked? And why is it when a pregnant woman is murdered the assailant is charged with a double murder? In my opinion anyone that feels protecting a spotted toad or a redwood tree is more important than an unborn child has some serious issues?

Most of the people on any bass fishing forum are conservatives, HELLO

It cracks me up when some left winger comes in here and gets upset because their liberal views are challenged. lmao

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Mon May 16, 2011 5:38 am

So who ever got arrested for committing suicide? Who has ever been punished for attempted suicide? LMAO

Now I'll explain why it's double murder. It a second chance to nail a murderous bastard. It's also taking away a woman's choice to keep her child. It's a way to lock up murderers longer.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Mon May 16, 2011 7:31 am

Liberal and Conservative. Black and White. Right and Wrong. You guys got everything nailed down to two extremes and apparently can't or won't see that lots of people on the planet are actually somewhere in between the two and that there are many places and beliefs in between. Just as there are many colors in the spectrum between black and white.

Because I don't hold with all the beliefs of the Right doesn't automatically make me a party to the Left, and vice versa. That's just far too simple and nothing about life on this planet is such.

Even when the masses are of like mind, it doesn't necessarily mean they're in the right.

sTony

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Mon May 16, 2011 9:59 pm

If everything is in black and white its easier for them to understand Tony and they don't have to spend so much thought figuring this stuff out. They can just nod their heads, yes, at the radio.

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:17 am

Greg_Cornish wrote:If everything is in black and white its easier for them to understand Tony and they don't have to spend so much thought figuring this stuff out. They can just nod their heads, yes, at the radio.

"They", now thats funny. Go back and look at your posts, just about everything is out of the liberal democrats playbook. Gotta love it.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:06 am

Where do I find this playbook? I listen to more conservative radio than I do liberal radio. I just lived through 2 hours of Rush.

2ndsuks · Post by **2ndsuks** » Tue May 17, 2011 11:18 am

[quote="Greg_Cornish"]So who ever got arrested for committing suicide? Who has ever been punished for attempted suicide? LMAO

If you kill other people and then kill yourself will you be arrested?
Dum de dum dum dum, Ever wondered what went on inside the head of the only guy laughing in a crowd?
Now I'll explain why it's double murder. It a second chance to nail a murderous bastard. It's also taking away a woman's choice to keep her child. It's a way to lock up murderers longer.
Definition of MURDER
1: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought

So an unborn child is not a person if the mother chooses to kill them!
That's like the way liberals believe in diverse opinion, as long as they agree with that opinion of course.[/quote]

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Tue May 17, 2011 7:09 pm

2ndsuks wrote:So an unborn child is not a person if the mother chooses to kill them!

Before a certain point in time. Correct - except the courts and medical experts, hugely more intelligent than yourself have ruled it so.

By your logic, you're a murderer if you masturbate and I heard you're getting blurry vision.

2ndsuks · Post by **2ndsuks** » Wed May 18, 2011 6:42 am

Greg_Cornish wrote:
2ndsuks wrote:So an unborn child is not a person if the mother chooses to kill them!
Before a certain point in time. Correct - except the courts and medical experts, hugely more intelligent than yourself have ruled it so.

By your logic, you're a murderer if you masturbate and I heard you're getting blurry vision.

Gregg, do you ever think before you talk or type!

I have a question for you, who's more embarrassed about the association, you or Jesse

Thunnus Salmoides · Post by **Thunnus Salmoides** » Tue May 24, 2011 10:39 pm

sTony wrote:
Grumpy wrote:
sTony wrote:I forgot, when I posted this, why it doesn't make sense to post in here. Now, I'm reminded.

sTony
Tony with all due respect, if you just drop in and basically make a blanket statement demeaning the participants, then yes you should probably stay out of it.
Grumpy, with all due respect, ninety percent of what I read in here is one person 'demeaning' another.

Tony walks into a cafeteria, throws a cup of fruit salad across the room and then acts indignant when a food fight breaks out.....hahaha!

Boy....it sure is quiet in here... I wonder why?

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